{"id":3047,"date":"2022-11-02T16:43:36","date_gmt":"2022-11-02T21:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christiansforpersonhood.com\/?p=3047"},"modified":"2022-11-02T18:04:24","modified_gmt":"2022-11-02T23:04:24","slug":"will-republican-senator-massey-vote-for-senator-cashs-h5399-conference-committee-proposal-if-so-will-the-sc-senate-have-just-the-24-cloture-votes-i-e-now-not-26-needed-to-stop-a-filibus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christiansforpersonhood.com\/index.php\/2022\/11\/02\/will-republican-senator-massey-vote-for-senator-cashs-h5399-conference-committee-proposal-if-so-will-the-sc-senate-have-just-the-24-cloture-votes-i-e-now-not-26-needed-to-stop-a-filibus\/","title":{"rendered":"Will “Republican” Senator Massey vote for Senator Cash’s H5399 Conference Committee proposal ? If so, will the SC Senate have just the 24 cloture votes [ i.e., now not 26 ] needed to stop a filibuster on a Conference Report ?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Will “Republican” Senator Shane<\/a> Massey<\/a> vote for Senator Richard Cash<\/a>‘s H5399 Conference Committee proposal ?
\n<\/b><\/span>If so, will the SC Senate have just the 24 cloture votes [ i.e., now not 26 ] needed to stop a filibuster on a Conference Report ?<\/strong>
\n<\/span>
\n<\/span>H5399 House-Senate Conference Committee meets again November 9; the 2022 Legislative Session ends November 13<\/strong><\/p>\n

Senator Massey almost immediately after being elected chairman of the Conference Committee (11\/1\/22) stated:<\/strong><\/p>\n

“It is clear to me that the Senate does not have the votes for a ban earlier than six weeks.”<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/em>
\n____________________________________________
\n<\/span>
\n<\/span>SIX (6) “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS DID NOT<\/u><\/b> VOTE FOR CLOTURE ON SEPTEMBER 8: <\/span><\/strong>Davis<\/span> (BEAUFORT), Gustafson<\/span> (KERSHAW), Hembree<\/span> (HORRY), Rankin<\/span> (HORRY), Senn<\/span> (Charleston), Shealy<\/span> (LEXINGTON)<\/strong>
\n
\n<\/span>‘These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke <\/a>Rankin<\/a> who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day<\/a>‘<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

SC Senate Journal<\/span><\/b> –<\/span> September 8, 2022
\n<\/span><\/b>https:\/\/scstatehouse.gov\/sess124_2021-2022\/sj22\/20220908.htm<\/span><\/a><\/strong> <\/p>\n

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*** THESE<\/span><\/strong> TWELVE (12) “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS PRESENT DID NOT<\/u><\/b> VOTE TO RECEDE FROM SENATE VERSION ON OCTOBER 18:<\/span><\/strong>
\nBennett<\/span> (DORCHESTER), Campsen<\/span> (CHARLESTON), Cromer<\/span> (NEWBERRY), Davis<\/span> (BEAUFORT), Gustafson<\/span> (KERSHAW), <\/span><\/strong>Hembree<\/span> (HORRY), M. Johnson<\/span> (YORK), Massey<\/span> (EDGEFIELD), Rankin<\/span> (HORRY), Senn<\/span> (Charleston), Shealy<\/span> (LEXINGTON), Young<\/span> (AIKEN)<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

‘SC Senate in Effect Refuses to Even Shut Down Any “Abortion” Centers in South Carolina, by a vote of 17 <\/a><\/span>Y to 26 N<\/span><\/a> (3 Not Voting)<\/span><\/a>‘<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

SC Senate Journal<\/span><\/b> –<\/span> October 18, 2022
\n<\/span><\/b>https:\/\/scstatehouse.gov\/sess124_2021-2022\/sj22\/20221018.htm<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

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*** THESE 12 “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS ARE ALREADY<\/u><\/b><\/span><\/em>\u00a0RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERPETUATION <\/strong>OF MASS GENOCIDE BY “ABORTION” IN SOUTH CAROLINA’S CHILD-EXTERMINATION CENTERS.<\/strong>
\n<\/span>____________________________________________
\n<\/span>
\n<\/span>Note<\/span><\/u>: Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish legal recognition of Personhood <\/span>for preborn children at fertilization, and therefore neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, <\/span><\/strong>and therefore neither version establishes Justice. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate <\/span><\/strong>to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401<\/a> \/ S1335<\/a>), not<\/u> H5399. At this juncture in the legislative process, <\/span><\/strong>Free Conference powers would have to be granted to the Conference Committee by a super-majority of each chamber <\/span><\/strong>to authorize striking the current language and amending H5399 with the language of Personhood Bills H5401<\/span><\/a> \/ S1335<\/a>.<\/span><\/strong>
\n_______________________________________________
\n
\n<\/span>WLTX – News19
\n<\/span><\/i>‘South Carolina abortion committee presents two compromise proposals<\/a>‘
\n<\/span><\/b>Nov 1, 2022
\n“It’s clear to me the Senate doesn’t have the votes to pass a ban earlier than six weeks,” [Senator] Massey<\/span> said.<\/span><\/strong>
\n“The question is do we want to pass something. If we want to pass something it gonna have to be after six weeks.”<\/span><\/strong> [emphasis added]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Post and Courier
\n<\/span><\/i>‘SC legislators remain at impasse over abortion ban days before proposal expires<\/a>‘
\n<\/span><\/b>Nov 1, 2022
\n‘Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey,<\/span> R-Edgefield, reiterated what he’s said since the Senate’s floor debate in September: There are not enough votes in his chamber to ban abortions earlier than six weeks.’<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0 [emphasis added]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WIS – News10
\n<\/span><\/i>‘SC GOP lawmakers remain locked in stalemate over tighter abortion restrictions<\/a>‘
\n<\/span><\/b>Nov 1, 2022
\n‘Two Republicans, Rep. John McCravy of Greenwood County and Sen. Richard Cash of Anderson County, proposed bills to ban abortion from conception, using the House version as their foundations but including exceptions and some elements from the less-restrictive Senate bill.’<\/span><\/strong>
\n
\n<\/span>‘But Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey <\/span>reiterated several times during Tuesday’s meeting that not enough Republicans will vote for that more restrictive bill to pass it in the Senate.’<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0 [emphasis added]
\n<\/span>
\n<\/span>‘The committee plans to meet again on Nov. 9, the morning after Election Day, to give working out on a compromise another shot.’<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

‘But even if they do reach an agreement, that essentially leaves them with the rest of Wednesday and Thursday, before the Veterans Day holiday on Friday and the deadline of Sunday, to get it approved by majority votes in both chambers of the General Assembly.’<\/span><\/strong>
\n
\n<\/span>‘If they do not beat that deadline, lawmakers would have to wait until the new legislative session begins in January to reintroduce abortion legislation.’<\/span><\/strong>
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\n
\n<\/span>November 1, 2022 – Day 130 after Dobbs<\/em> Decision:
\n<\/span><\/span><\/b>
\n<\/span>Conference Committee for H5399
\nGressette Building, State House Grounds
\nColumbia, SC
\n<\/span><\/b>
\n<\/span>Archived Video
\nhttps:\/\/www.scstatehouse.gov\/video\/archives.php?key=12548&part=1
\n<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/b>__________________________________________________
\n
\n<\/span>Three take-aways from Conference Committee meeting Tuesday, November 1:
\n<\/b><\/span>
\n<\/span>1) Senator Massey (“R” – Edgefield) repeatedly stated how certain he is the Senate does not have the votes to pass an “abortion” ban earlier than at six weeks (even though a simple majority of 24 Senators (out of 46) did vote for Massey’s cloture motion at 5:18pm on September 8 to stop a filibuster against a Senate version that did just that).
\n
\n<\/span>‘These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke <\/a>Rankin<\/a> who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day<\/a>‘<\/span><\/strong>
\n<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/p>\n

(Massey claimed during this November 1 meeting there were 24 votes on September 8 only because some Senators knew there would not be the 26 votes needed for cloture to succeed !).<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n

2) Representative McCravy (R – Greenwood) offered a proposal for the Conference Committee to consider that would ban “abortions” after a pregnancy is diagnosed (not at conception), and included all the exceptions, and repeals current SC Code Section 44-41-20, which the SC Supreme Court August 17, 2022 Order<\/a> identified as the codification of Roe v Wade still present in SC Law.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

3) Senator Cash (R – Anderson) offered a proposal for the Conference Committee to consider that would ban “abortions” <\/span><\/strong>after a pregnancy is diagnosed (not at conception), and included all exceptions EXCEPT for the so-called fatal fetal “anomaly” exception, <\/strong>and repeals current SC Code Section 44-41-20, which the SC Supreme Court August 17, 2022 Order<\/a> identified as the codification <\/strong>of Roe v Wade still present in SC Law.<\/strong>
\n______________________________________________
\n
\n<\/span>There are also some other differences between the McCravy and Cash proposals; the McCravy proposal essentially including what is allowed under House Rules for a Conference Committee Report without Free Conference powers; and the Cash proposal
\nessentially including what is allowed under Senate Rules for a Conference Committee Report without Free Conference powers. However, there are differences between the House and Senate interpretations regarding what is allowed in a Conference Committee Report. (Free Conference powers, if granted by a super-majority of each chamber, allows the Conference Committee to have greater liberty in what they can propose as a compromise.)
\n<\/span><\/b>______________________________________________
\n
\n<\/span>Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish Justice. Without the legal recognition of Personhood <\/span>for preborn children at fertilization, neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and are therefore unjust pieces of legislation. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401<\/a> \/ S1335<\/a>), not H5399.<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n

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“Without Virtue There Can Be No Liberty” – Founder* Benjamin Rush:
\n<\/span><\/b>http:\/\/christiansforpersonhood.com\/index.php\/2022\/10\/24\/without-virtue-there-can-be-no-liberty-founder-benjamin-rush\/<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

https:\/\/abortionno.org\/abortion-photos\/<\/span><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

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God says,<\/strong>
\n“THOU SHALT NOT KILL (MURDER).”<\/strong>
\nExodus 20:13, KJV<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

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