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SC House: Personhood Amendment Ruled Non-Germane to Incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat’ Bill by Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope on Point of Order – April 24, 2019

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Posted May 30, 2019 / Revised May 31, 2019

SC House: Personhood Amendment Ruled Non-Germane to Incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill by Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope on Point of Order – April 24, 2019

( AUDIO ) Rep. Bamberg (D) Amendment No. 2 ( Personhood Bill ) to H3020 Heartbeat Bill
Wednesday, April 24, 2019
Floor of SC House of Representatives, SC State House, Columbia, SC

[ Video available at SC Legislature Video Archives,
Wednesday, April 24, 2019  10:00 am
House of Representatives — House of Representatives – Part 2
  Begin at Video time 33:40 ]

Republican-Super-Majority SC House adopted Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat’ Bill which bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected

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Columbia Christians for Life ( CCL )
aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 16, 2019 / Revised May 17, 2019

 

April 24 Columbia, SC

Republican-Super-Majority SC House adopted Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill which bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected

Human Life begins at CONCEPTION NOT HEARTBEAT !!!

Note: The Republican-Super-Majority SC House passed H3020 Heartbeat Bill on Second Reading April 24 with Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment, and on Third Reading April 25, and sent bill to SC Senate, where H3020 was assigned to Medical Affairs Committe April 25.
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living unborn baby at eight weeks
http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-at-8-weeks-pictures/

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“Republicans” who voted against tabling Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill, which already bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected:

Bailey, Ballentine, Bannister, Blackwell, Bradley, Chellis, Clary, Clemmons, Cogswell, Collins, W. Cox, Daning, Davis, Felder, Finlay, Hewitt, Hixon, Huggins, Hyde, Kimmons, Lowe, Mace, Martin, McCoy, McGinnis, D. C. Moss, Murphy, B. Newton, W. Newton, Sottile, Spires, Taylor, Wooten  [ 33 “Republicans” total ]

Note: SC House Representatives districts and contact information.

After the attempt to table the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment failed on a 38 – 62 vote, the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment was then adopted on a voice vote.  So of the 62 votes against tabling the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment, 33 of those 62 were the “Republicans” listed above.  In other words, the
Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment would have failed without the support of Republicans.

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Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment added to unjust incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill; unjust Mace amendment insures children conceived in cases of rape and incest can still be murdered even after heartbeat detected:

Note 1: In addition to being fundamentally flawed as an incremental bill regulating child-murder by allowing the murder of all children in the womb prior to a heartbeat being detected (approx. 6 weeks gestation), the ‘ HeartbeatBill ( H3020) as initially filed also already contained “exceptions” for performing an “abortion” (which this bill euphemistically includes among what it terms “a medical procedure” [ sic – intentional murder of a child in the womb is not “a medical procedure” !!! ] “to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.” [ Re: H3020 as pre-filed Dec 18, 2018 – Section 44-41-700. (A) and Section 44-41-710. (A) ]

However, it is never necessary to intentionally destroy the child in the womb.  See written Statement below prepared by Dr. Patrick Johnston, presented to a SC Senate Judiciary Subcommittee by Dr. Henry Jordan, on March 13, 2014:

Dr. Patrick Johnston, Director, Assn. of Pro-Life Physicians, Statement S.457 Senate Judiciary Subcomm. Hearing
March 13, 2014

Note 2:  The Mace amendment adding rape and incest exceptions to the ‘ HeartbeatBill ( H3020) was approved by the full SC House Judiciary Committee [ April 4, 2019 Report ], and later adopted by the full SC House on April 24:

SC House Journal – April 24, 2019
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190424.htm#p61
Excerpts [ edited, emphasis added ]

The Committee on Judiciary proposed the following Amendment No. 1 to H. 3020 ( Word version)
(COUNCIL\VR\3020C001.CC.VR19):
Amend the bill, as and if amended, SECTION 2, by striking Section 44-41-680 in its entirety and inserting:

/   Section 44-41-680.   (A)   Section 44-41-670 does not apply to a physician who performs or induces the abortion if the physician determines according to standard medical practice that a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance with that section or that the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest.

(B)   A physician who performs or induces an abortion on a pregnant woman based on an exception in subsection (A) shall make written notations in the pregnant woman’s medical records of the following:

(1)(a)   the physician’s belief that a medical emergency necessitating the abortion existed; and

(b)   the medical condition of the pregnant woman that assertedly prevented compliance with Section 44-41-670; or

(2)   the physician’s belief that the pregnancy resulted from rape of [ sic – or ] incest.

(C)   For at least seven years from the date the notations are made, the physician shall maintain in the physician’s own records a copy of the notations.   / amend the bill further, as and if amended, SECTION 2, by striking Section 44-41-710 in its entirety and inserting:

/   Section 44-41-710.   (A)   Section 44-41-700 does not apply to a physician who performs a medical procedure that, in reasonable medical judgment, is designed or intended to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman or is designed or intended to terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(B)(1)   A physician who performs a medical procedure as described in subsection (A) shall declare, in a written document, that the medical procedure is necessary, in reasonable medical judgment, to:

(a)   prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman; or

(b)   terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(2)   In the document, the physician shall:

(a)   specify the pregnant woman’s medical condition that the medical procedure is asserted to address and the medical rationale for the physician’s conclusion that the medical procedure is necessary to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman; or

(b)   specify the medical rational for the physician’s conclusion that the medical procedure is necessary to terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(C)   A physician who performs a medical procedure as described in subsection (A) shall place the written document required by subsection (B) in the pregnant woman’s medical records. For at least seven years from the date the document is created, the physician shall maintain a copy of the document in the physician’s own records.   /

Renumber sections to conform.
Amend title to conform.

Rep. MACE explained the amendment.

Rep. MCCRAVY spoke against the amendment.
Rep. RIDGEWAY spoke against the amendment.

continued…

Rep. RIDGEWAY continued speaking.

Rep. MAGNUSON spoke against the amendment.
Rep. KING spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. KING spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RUTHERFORD spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RUTHERFORD spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RIDGEWAY spoke against the amendment.
Rep. MACE spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. LONG spoke against the amendment.
Rep. MACK spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. THIGPEN spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. THIGPEN spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. R. WILLIAMS spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. R. WILLIAMS spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. CLEMMONS spoke in favor of the amendment.

continued…

Rep. MCCRAVY moved to table the amendment.

Rep. MACE demanded the yeas and nays which were taken, resulting as follows:

Yeas 38; Nays 62

Those who voted in the affirmative (38) are:
[ voting AGAINST ADDING MACE RAPE AND INCEST EXCEPTIONS AMENDMENT ]

Alexander, Allison, Bales, Bennett, Burns, Calhoon, Chumley, B. Cox, Crawford, Elliott, Forrest, Forrester, Gagnon, Gilliam, Hardee, Hayes, Hill, Hiott, Johnson, Long, Lucas, Magnuson, McCravy, Morgan, V. S. Moss, Pope, Ridgeway, Sandifer, Simrill, G. R. Smith, Stringer, Tallon, Thayer, Trantham, West, Whitmire, Willis, Yow

Total–38

Those who voted in the negative (62) are:
[ voting IN FAVOR OF ADDING MACE RAPE AND INCEST EXCEPTIONS AMENDMENT ]

Anderson, Atkinson, Bailey, Ballentine, Bamberg, Bannister, Blackwell, Bradley, Brawley, Chellis, Clary, Clemmons, Clyburn, Cobb-Hunter, Cogswell, Collins, W. Cox, Daning, Davis, Felder, Finlay, Garvin, Gilliard, Govan, Henderson-Myers, Henegan, Hewitt, Hixon, Hosey, Howard, Huggins, Hyde, Jefferson, Kimmons, King, Kirby, Lowe, Mace, Martin, McCoy, McDaniel, McGinnis, Moore, D. C. Moss, Murphy, B. Newton, W. Newton, Norrell, Ott, Parks, Pendarvis, Rivers, Robinson, Rutherford, Simmons, Sottile, Spires, Stavrinakis, Taylor, R. Williams, S. Williams, Wooten

Total–62

So, the House refused to table the amendment.

The question then recurred to the adoption of the amendment.

The amendment was then adopted.

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Additional reports:

PERSONHOOD ACT OF SOUTH CAROLINA
AND SCRIPTURAL BASIS OF HUMAN LAWS
Christians for Personhood newsletter
Steve Lefemine, Christian pro-life missionary
exec. dir., Christians for Personhood
December 31, 2018

ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION”
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/08/all-heartbeat-bills-have-a-huge-exception/
April 5, 2019

Personhood Report: In Law, No Exceptions to Human Personhood
November 30, 2018 / Edited December 4, 2018

Personhood Report: No Exceptions to Personhood
January 27, 2018

No Exceptions
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/no-exceptions/

Pro-Life Without Exception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=zwazODlTOBk
Is abortion helpful in cases of rape or incest? What about fetal deformity? What about threats to the life or health of the mother? Hear the stories of those who have actually been involved in these difficult circumstance.

Dr. Patrick Johnston, Director, Assn. of Pro-Life Physicians, Statement S.457 Senate Judiciary Subcomm. Hearing
March 13, 2014

SC House once again votes to Regulate Child-Murder, passes incremental bill banning most ‘abortions’ after Heartbeat detected (with ‘exceptions’); banning NO ‘abortions’ before – April 24/25, 2019

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Columbia Christians for Life ( CCL )
aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
April 28, 2019

April 24/25 Columbia, SC

SC House once again votes to Regulate Child-Murder, passes incremental bill banning most ‘abortions’ after Heartbeat detected (with ‘exceptions’); banning NO ‘abortions’ before.

Note: This Report initially sent out by text on April 26; the SC House passed H3020 Heartbeat Bill on Third reading on April 25, and sent bill to SC Senate, where H3020 was assigned to Medical Affairs Comm.
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[ Edited ]

The SC House passed H3020 by 70-31 vote on 2d Reading:

SC House Journal for Wednesday, 4/24/19
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190424.htm

SC House passed H3020 by 64-22 vote on 3rd Reading:

SC House Journal for Thursday, 4/25/19
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190425.htm

(In SC House, 78 R’s, 44 D’s, 2 vac’s)

The State (Columbia, SC)
‘SC House approves bill to ban most abortions in the state’
https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article229557534.html
April 24, 2019 / Updated April 25, 2019
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Christians for Personhood:

Heartbeat Bill H3020:
“Good” is the Enemy of God’s Best
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/09/heartbeat-bill-h3020-good-is-the-enemy-of-gods-best/
April 8, 2019

ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION”
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/08/all-heartbeat-bills-have-a-huge-exception/
April 5, 2019
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Columbia Christians for Life:

( Audio / Transcript / Report )
Heartbeat Bill does not establish justice for all human beings at fertilization’: Christian pro-life missionary testifies against incremental ‘Heartbeat’ Bill at SC House Judiciary Subcommittee Hearing – March 21, 2019
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2019-03-25-Christian-pro-life-missionary-testifies-against-incremental-Heartbeat-Bill-ConLaws-Subcomm-Hearing-March-21-2019.pdf

Incrementalism in theory
is the PERPETUATION of Child-Murder by “abortion” in practice.

God says,

“Thou shalt not kill (murder).” Exodus 20:13, KJV

Note: No Exceptions.

Columbia Christians for Life

ChristianLifeandLiberty.net

ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION”

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Christians for Personhood (CP)
April 5, 2019

In NY Times article below, Georgia RTL supported Georgia’s recently passed incremental child-murder regulation Heartbeat Bill, until rape and incest exceptions were added. For heaven’s sake, by definition, ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION” – i.e., allowing the killing of ALL children in the womb who are less than six weeks old !!! Heartbeat bills do NOT “establish Justice” as required by the Preamble of the US Constitution (and therefore inherent in Oath of Office taken by legislators and governors); are contrary to Scripture; and are contrary to a principled, Biblically-sound position of supporting only Personhood, or other legislation which completely abolishes child-murder by “abortion”.

‘Georgia Is Latest State to Pass Fetal Heartbeat Bill as Part of Growing Trend’

The New York Times
March 30, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/us/georgia-fetal-heartbeat-abortion-law.html

Christians for Personhood comments (cont’d):

Georgia RTL is essentially founding affiliate of so-called “Personhood” Alliance:

National Personhood Alliance | Georgia Right to Life
http://www.grtl.org/?q=national-personhood-alliance

However there are leaders within the Romish/ecumenical “Personhood” Alliance who do NOT only support principled, Biblically-sound Personhood legislation.

In fact, a leading voice advocating passage of the Ohio incremental child-murder regulation Heartbeat bill is a president emeritus of the (so-called) Personhood Alliance: Molly Smith, president of the Ohio affiliate of the “Personhood” (sic) Alliance, called Cleveland Right to Life.

Leadership – Personhood Alliance
https://personhood.org/about-us/leadership

The “Personhood” Alliance leaders are NOT all ONLY supporting principled, Biblically-sound Personhood legislation. That is NOT a position faithful to the Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Exodus 20:13
Matthew 19:18
Amos 5:15
Exodus 10:24-26
KJV

Christians for Personhood (CP)
ChristiansforPersonhood.com