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2019 SC Senate Legislative Scorecard

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CHRISTIANS FOR PERSONHOOD
2019 SC Senate Legislative Scorecard

Votes on “Abortion” / Planned Parenthood Funding in South Carolina State Budget (H.4000)
[Part IB Provisos]

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2019 SC Senate Legislative Scorecard
Votes on “Abortion” / Planned Parenthood Funding
in South Carolina State Budget (H.4000)

The purpose of Christians for Personhood is to glorify God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is God the Son, in the power of God the Holy Spirit, by seeking to Establish Justice for pre-birth human beings, in law, at fertilization, and that without exception, because God’s Word says: “Thou shalt not kill (murder)”, Exodus 20:13, KJV.

In furtherance of this purpose, the 27 SC Senate Republicans have been scored on four 2019 SC State Budget votes:

“ABORTION” FUNDING IN SECTION 108 (PEBA): SC Senate (27 R, 19 D) passes entire Section 108 (PEBA), with SC state-funding of rape, incest, and so-called life-of-the-mother “abortions” through SC State Health Insurance Plan (Section 108/PEBA) included. Vote April 18, 2019: Passed 37 Y [ 20 R’s ] – 6 N [ 6 R’s ] – 1 Abstain [ 1 R ].

PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING AND “ABORTION” FUNDING IN SECTION 33 (DHHS/Medicaid): SC Senate (27 R, 19 D) passes entire Section 33 (DHHS/Medicaid), with SC state-funding of both Planned Parenthood, and Medicaid Hyde Amendment “abortions”, included. Vote April 18, 2019: Passed 25 Y [ 8 R’s ] – 19 N [ 19 R’s ].

“ABORTION” FUNDING AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING IN SC STATE BUDGET (H4000 – Third Reading): SC Senate (27 R, 19 D) passes entire SC State Budget (H.4000) with SC state-funding of rape, incest, and so-called life-of-the-mother “abortions” through SC State Health Insurance Plan (Section 108) included; and with SC state-funding of both Planned Parenthood, and Medicaid Hyde Amendment “abortions” (Section 33), included. Vote April 18, 2019: Passed 38 Y [ 21 R’s ] – 6 N [ 6 R’s ].

“ABORTION” FUNDING AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING IN SC STATE BUDGET (H4000 – Conf. Report): SC Senate (27 R, 19 D) passes entire SC State Budget (H.4000) Conference Report with SC state-funding of rape, incest, and so-called life-of-the-mother “abortions” through SC State Health Insurance Plan (PEBA/Section 108/Proviso 108.4) included; and with SC state-funding of both Planned Parenthood (DHHS/Medicaid/Section 33/Proviso 33.25), and Medicaid Hyde Amendment “abortions” (DHHS/Medicaid/Section 33/Proviso 33.12), included. Vote May 21, 2019: Passed 32 Y [ 18 R’s ] – 8 N [ 8 R’s ].

View and download the printable scorecard and flyer here.

SC Abortion/Abortionist Funding

Published by:

Columbia Christians for Life ( CCL )
aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
August 28, 2019

SC ‘Abortion’ / ‘Abortionist’ Funding:

May 28
Office of the Governor
SC State House
Columbia, SC

SC Governor Henry McMaster’s Budget Vetoes Did Not Cure either the ‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA Proviso 108.4 ), or the ‘Abortionist’ / Planned Parenthood Funding ( DHHS Proviso 33.25 ), in the H.4000 FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget as Passed and Ratified by the Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and the Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Majority SC SENATE; in fact Governor McMaster’s own proposed Executive Budget also contained ‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA Proviso 108.4 )

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Note: The Conference Committee Report for H4000 State Budget was adopted in the SC House by a vote of 105 – 6 and in the SC Senate by a vote of 32 – 8, both votes occurring Tuesday, May 21, 2019.
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Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Majority SC SENATE:

Senate Roll Call Vote Number 442
Session: 123 (2019-2020)
05/21/2019 01:27 pm

to adopt the conference report
RESULT: Passed
Ayes: 32; Nays: 8; Excused Absence: 4

H 4000 Appropriations Bill, 2019-2020
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=16879

Of the 46 Senators ( 27 R, 19 D ) in the SC Senate, 32 Senators ( 18 R, 14 D ) voted “Aye” on their final vote May 21 on the FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget funding “Abortion” and
“Abortionist”/Planned Parenthood. 
The only eight Senators ( all Republicans ) who voted “Nay” against the SC State Budget which funds Child-Murder and Child-Murderers were:

Cash, Richard
Climer, Wes
Corbin, Thomas
Grooms, Larry
Hembree, Greg
Massey, Shane
Rice, Rex
Senn, Sandy

SC Senate Journal – May 21, 2019
H. 4000–REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE OF CONFERENCE ADOPTED

https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/sj19/20190521.htm

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Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE

House Roll Call Vote Number 703
Session: 123 (2019-2020)
05/21/2019 02:32 pm

Adopt Conference Report
RESULT: Passed
Yeas: 105; Nays: 6; Excused Absence: 7; Not Voting: 4

H 4000 Appropriations Bill, 2019-2020
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=16889

Of the 124 House seats [ minus vacancies ] in the SC HOUSE, 105 House Representatives ( 66 R, 39 D ) voted “Aye” on their final vote May 21 on the FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget funding “Abortion” and “Abortionist”/Planned Parenthood.
The only six House Representatives ( all Republicans ) who voted “Nay” against the SC State Budget which funds Child-Murder and Child-Murderers were:

Hill, Jonathon
Jones, Stewart
Long, Steven
Mace, Nancy
Magnuson, Josiah
Trantham, Ashley

SC House Journal – May 21, 2019
H. 4000–RULE 5.14 WAIVED AND CONFERENCE REPORT ADOPTED

https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190521.htm

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SC Governor McMaster’s Budget Veto Message
H. 4000 FY 2019-2020 Budget Vetoes (PDF)
May 28, 2019
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H.4000 FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget

H.4000 – As Ratified by the General Assembly on May 22, 2019. Governor’s vetoes are marked. Enacted on June 25, 2019.

PART IB PROVISOS
( Sections listed separately)
*** Section 33 (DHHS) Provisos [ ‘Abortionist’ / Planned Parenthood Funding ( Proviso 33.25 ) ]
*** Section 108 (PEBA) Provisos [ ‘Abortion’ Funding ( Proviso 108.4 ) ]
( PDF format for Part IB )

H. 4000 — Governor’s Veto Message – May 28, 2019

H. 4000 – Conference Report Adopted by the General Assembly on May 21, 2019

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May 21 Columbia, SC
SC State House

Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and Republican-Majority SC SENATE approve SC State Budget Conf Comm Rpt with Baby-Killing ( Proviso 108.4) and Baby-Killer/Planned Parenthood ( Proviso 33.25) FUNDING; Bill now goes to SC Gov McMaster
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/08/20/647/


living unborn baby at eight weeks
http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-at-8-weeks-pictures/

Note: The Conference Committee Report for H4000 State Budget was adopted in the SC House by a vote of 105 – 6 and in the SC Senate by a vote of 32 – 8, both votes occurring Tuesday, May 21, 2019.   H4000 was ratified on May 22, 2019, and next was sent to the SC Governor.

As this May 21 version of the SC State Budget approved by both the SC House and SC Senate contains funding for genocidal mass murderers Planned Parenthood (Section 33 – DHHS), and also contains funding for certain ‘Abortions’ in the State Health Insurance Plan (Section 108 – PEBA), that means the version of the SC State Budget as passed by the SC Legislature on May 21 still requires South Carolina taxpayers to fund PLANNED PARENTHOOD for now and to fund certain ‘Abortions’.  If even one child in the womb is murdered during FY 2019-2020 ( July 1, 2019 – June 30, 2020 ) using funds appropriated in H4000 as approved May 21 by SC House members, and as approved May 21 by SC Senate members, as well as earlier applicable votes in the legislative process taken in the SC House and the SC Senate, then each and every House and Senate member voting to appropriate such money, or voting against efforts to stop the appropriation of such money, will consequently thereby be an accessory to murder before-the-fact, the fraudulent, unrighteous, immoral, and unconstitutional Opinion of the US Supreme Court in Roe v Wade notwithstanding.

Note: The SC DHHS funding of Planned Parenthood is NOT directly for surgical or RU-486 “abortions”, but for so-called “family planning funds”, which may include chemically abortifacient “birth control”. Any government (taxpayer) money given to Planned Parenthood helps sustain their operation as a child-murder center.  Two of the three stand-alone child-murder centers remaining in South Carolina are operated by Planned Parenthood [ located in Charleston and Columbia ].

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H.4000 FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget [ Beginning July 1, 2019 through June 30, 2020 ]

SC State Budget signed into Law by SC Governor Henry McMaster includes:

‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA Proviso 108.4 ) and ‘Abortionist’ / Planned Parenthood Funding
( DHHS Proviso 33.25 ) in the H.4000 FY 2019-2020 SC State Budget:

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Section 33 (DHHS)‘Abortionist’ / Planned Parenthood Funding ( Proviso 33.25 )

SECTION 33 – J020 – DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

[ emphasis, comments below added ]

33.25.      (DHHS: Family Planning Funds)  The State has enacted Section 43-5-1185 of the 1976 Code that prohibits state funds, directly or indirectly, from being utilized by Planned Parenthood for abortions, abortion services or procedures, or administrative functions related to abortions. Having prevented Planned Parenthood from performing abortions with state funds, once the federal injunction is lifted ***, the Department of Health and Human Services may not direct any federal funds to Planned Parenthood. An otherwise qualified organization may not be disqualified from receipt of these funds because of its affiliation with an organization that provides abortion services, provided that the affiliated organization that provides abortion services is independent of the qualified organization. An independent affiliate that provides abortion services must be separately incorporated from any organization that receives these funds. An organization that provides abortion services in compliance with Part 1.B., Proviso 33.12 of this act is excepted from the above restriction on state family planning funds and may receive state family planning funds.

*** In other words, DEFUNDING OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT NOW !
That is, for now, funding for Planned Parenthood goes on “business as usual” !!!  This is a fake “pro-life” [ sic ] proviso !!!  The federal injunction blocking this particular legal / legislative strategy to defund Planned Parenthood has been in place since August 2018 !!!

Why did the SC House and SC Senate not adopt the effective proviso from the SC Governor’s Proposed Executive Budget [Proviso 33.24] which utilized a different legislative strategy to defund Planned Parenthood ?

[ See further below ]

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Section 108 (PEBA)‘Abortion’ Funding ( Proviso 108.4 )

SECTION 108 – F500 – PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT AUTHORITY

[ emphasis, comments below added ]

108.4.      (PEBA: Funding Abortions Prohibited)  No funds appropriated for employer contributions to the State Health Insurance Plan may be expended to reimburse the expenses of an abortion, except *** in cases of rape, incest or where the mother’s medical condition is one which, on the basis of the physician’s good faith judgment, so complicates the pregnancy as to necessitate an immediate abortion to avert the risk of her death or for which a delay will create serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of major bodily function, and the State Health Plan may not offer coverage for abortion services, including ancillary services provided contemporaneously with abortion services.  The Public Employee Benefit Authority must determine the amount of the total premium paid for health coverage necessary to cover the risks associated with reimbursing participants in the plan for obtaining an abortion in the circumstances covered by this provision.  The determination must be based on actuarial data and empirical study in the same manner and by the same method that other risks are adjusted for in similar circumstances.  The plan must report this determination annually to the respective Chairmen of the Senate Finance Committee and the House Ways and Means Committee.

*** In other words, THE TAX-FUNDED MURDER OF CERTAIN CHILDREN IN THE WOMB IS STILL AUTHORIZED IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE BUDGET !!!

This is in the SC State Budget passed and ratified and sent to the SC Governor by the Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and the Fake ‘Pro-Life’ [sic] Republican-Majority SC SENATE !!!

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PERSONHOOD ACT OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND SCRIPTURAL BASIS OF HUMAN LAWS
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/01/01/personhood-act-of-south-carolina-and-scriptural-basis-of-human-laws/
December 31, 2018/Revised January 2, 2019

Personhood Report: In Law, No Exceptions to Human Personhood
November 30, 2018 / Edited December 4, 2018
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/12/04/in-law-no-exceptions-to-human-personhood/

Personhood Report: No Exceptions to Personhood
January 27, 2018
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/01/29/personhood-report-no-exceptions-to-personhood/


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Re: Executive Budget Proposed by SC Governor Henry McMaster, January 14, 2019

Section 33 ( DHHS )

Where was the vigorous, public debate over adopting the effective language to defund Planned Parenthood in Section 33 (DHHS) contained in the
SC Governor’s January 19, 2019 Proposed Executive Budget, in Proviso 33.24 of that Document ?

Why did the SC House and SC Senate not adopt the effective proviso from the SC Governor’s Proposed Executive Budget [ Proviso 33.24 ] which utilized a different legislative strategy to defund Planned Parenthood ?
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SC Governor McMaster’s Proposed Budget for FY 2019-2020

Governor McMaster’s Executive Budget Fiscal Year 2019-2020 (PDF)
Part IA, Appropriations (PDF)
Statement of Revenues (PDF)
Part IB (PDF)

SC Governor
Executive Budget
State of South Carolina
Fiscal Year 2019-20
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/gbud1920.pdf
Governor Henry McMaster
January 14, 2019

FISCAL YEAR 2019-20 PROVISOS
PART IB
OPERATION OF STATE GOVERNMENT
PAGE 251

FISCAL YEAR 2019-20 PROVISOS
PAGE 322
SECTION 33 – J020 – DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/GOVPartIB.pdf

33.24. (DHHS: Defunding Planned Parenthood) The Department of Health and Human Services may not accept federal funds for family planning. None of the state funds appropriated for family planning may be expended to directly or indirectly subsidize abortion services or procedures or administrative functions and none of the funds appropriated herein may be paid or granted to an organization that provides abortion services. An otherwise qualified organization may not be disqualified from receipt of these funds because of its affiliation with an organization that provides abortion services, provided that the affiliated organization that provides abortion services is independent of the qualified organization. An independent affiliate the provides abortion services must be separately incorporated from any organization that receives these funds. An organization that provides abortion services where the life of the mother is at risk and the termination of the pregnancy is incidental to the lifesaving intervention is excepted from the above restriction on state family planning funds and may receive state family planning funds, provided that the physician shall act in accordance with the standard of care to preserve both the life of the mother and the life of the pre-born child.

Why did the SC House and SC Senate not adopt this effective proviso from the SC Governor’s Proposed Executive Budget [ Proviso 33.24 ] which utilized a different legislative strategy to defund Planned Parenthood ?

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Re: Executive Budget Proposed by SC Governor Henry McMaster,
January 14, 2019

Section 108 ( PEBA )

It is grievous to see that even in the Proposed Executive Budget submitted by SC Governor Henry McMaster, January 14, 2019, as pertains to Section 108 ( PEBA ), the wickedness of tax-funded murder of certain children in the womb was contained in the SC Governor’s own proposed SC State Budget !!!

SC Governor McMaster’s Proposed Budget for FY 2019-2020

Governor McMaster’s Executive Budget Fiscal Year 2019-2020 (PDF)
Part IA, Appropriations (PDF)
Statement of Revenues (PDF)
Part IB (PDF)

SC Governor
Executive Budget
State of South Carolina
Fiscal Year 2019-20
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/gbud1920.pdf
Governor Henry McMaster
January 14, 2019

FISCAL YEAR 2019-20 PROVISOS
PART IB
OPERATION OF STATE GOVERNMENT
PAGE 251

FISCAL YEAR 2019-20 PROVISOS
PAGE 413
SECTION 108 – F500 – PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT AUTHORITY
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/GOVPartIB.pdf

108.4. (PEBA: Funding Abortions Prohibited) No funds appropriated for employer contributions to the State Health Insurance Plan may be expended to reimburse the expenses of an abortion, except*** in cases of rape, incest or where the mother’s medical condition is one which, on the basis of the physician’s good faith judgment, so complicates the pregnancy as to necessitate an immediate abortion to avert the risk of her death or for which a delay will create serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of major bodily function, and the State Health Plan may not offer coverage for abortion services, including ancillary services provided contemporaneously with abortion services. The Public Employee Benefit Authority must determine the amount of the total premium paid for health coverage necessary to cover the risks associated with reimbursing participants in the plan for obtaining an abortion in the circumstances covered by this provision. The determination must be based on actuarial data and empirical study in the same manner and by the same method that other risks are adjusted for in similar circumstances. The plan must report this determination annually to the respective Chairmen of the Senate Finance Committee and the House Ways and Means Committee.

*** In other words, THE TAX-FUNDED MURDER OF CERTAIN CHILDREN IN THE WOMB WAS PROPOSED IN THE SC GOVERNOR’S EXECUTIVE BUDGET !!!

This taxpayer-funding of selected child-murder was in the Proposed Executive Budget submitted by SC Governor Henry McMaster on January 14, 2019 !!!

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Previous Published Reports Related to “Abortion” and “Abortionist” / Planned Parenthood Funding in the FY 2019 – 2020 SC State Budget:

[ Edited ]

May 21 Columbia, SC
SC State House

Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and Republican-Majority SC SENATE approve SC State Budget Conf Comm Rpt with Baby-Killing ( Proviso 108.4) and Baby-Killer/Planned Parenthood ( Proviso 33.25) FUNDING; Bill now goes to SC Gov McMaster
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/08/20/647/

Re: Certain ‘Abortion’-funding in Section 108, Proviso 108.4 and Funding of Planned Parenthood for now in Section 33, Proviso 33.25
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/07/31/re-certain-abortion-funding-in-section-108-proviso-108-4-and-funding-of-planned-parenthood-for-now-in-section-33-proviso-33-25/

May 7 Columbia, SC

Republican-Super-Majority SC House amends SC Senate April 18 version of SC State Budget ( H4000) by first restoring House version passed March 13, including Planned Parenhood Funding ( DHHS) and ‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA); Amdt 1A adopted by 110-0 Vote
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/06/15/republican-super-majority-sc-house-amends-sc-senate-april-18-version-of-sc-state-budget-h4000-by-first-restoring-house-version-passed-march-13-including-planned-parenhood-funding-dhhs-and-ab/

April 18 Columbia, SC

SC Senate approves State Budget ( H4000) with Planned Parenthood Funding ( Section 33 – DHHS) and with certain ‘Abortion’ Funding ( Section 108 – PEBA), by 38-6 Vote
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/05/06/sc-senate-approves-state-budget-with-planned-parenthood-and-certain-abortion-funding-by-38-6-vote-april-18-2019/

April 18 Columbia, SC

SC Senate approves Section 33 (DHHS) of State Budget ( H4000) even though it contains PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING:

http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/25/sc-senate-approves-section-33-dhhs-of-state-budget-h4000-even-though-it-contains-planned-parenthood-funding/

April 18 Columbia, SC

SC Senate continues SC DHHS funding of Planned Parenthood for now; adopts still ineffective revised version of ineffective Proviso 33.25, without adopting Governor’s effective Proviso 33.24

http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/24/sc-senate-continues-sc-dhhs-funding-of-planned-parenthood-for-now-adopts-still-ineffective-revised-version-of-ineffective-proviso-33-25-without-adopting-governors-effective-proviso-33-24/

April 18 Columbia, SC

SC Senate approves Section 108 (PEBA) of State Budget (H4000) even though it contains State-funding of certain “abortions” in
State Health Insurance Plan:
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/23/sc-senate-approves-section-108-peba-of-state-budget-h4000-even-though-it-contains-state-funding-of-certain-abortions-in-state-health-insurance-plan/

(SC) Wed., April 17

Re: SC Senate votes against stopping State-funding of certain “abortions” through SC State Health Insurance Plan (PEBA)
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/23/sc-senate-votes-against-stopping-state-funding-of-certain-abortions-through-sc-state-health-insurance-plan-peba/

(SC) Update: PLANNED PARENTHOOD funding STILL in SC State Budget as full Senate to begin budget debate Wed, April 17
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/16/planned-parenthood-funding-still-in-sc-state-budget-as-full-senate-to-begin-budget-debate-wed-april-17/

(SC) Alert: Planned Parenthood Funding in SC State Budget; Full Senate Finance Committee meets beginning Tues., April 2nd
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/03/27/sc-alert-planned-parenthood-funding-in-sc-state-budget-full-senate-finance-committee-meets-beginning-tues-april-2nd/

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Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and Republican-Majority SC SENATE approve SC State Budget Conf Comm Rpt with Baby-Killing (Proviso 108.4) and Baby-Killer/Planned Parenthood (Proviso 33.25) FUNDING; Bill now goes to SC Gov McMaster

Published by:

Columbia Christians for Life ( CCL )
aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 22, 2019 / August 20, 2019

May 21 Columbia, SC
SC State House

Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and Republican-Majority SC SENATE approve SC State Budget Conf Comm Rpt with Baby-Killing (Proviso 108.4) and Baby-Killer/Planned Parenthood ( Proviso 33.25) FUNDING; Bill now goes to SC Gov McMaster


living unborn baby at eight weeks
http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-at-8-weeks-pictures/

Note: The Conference Committee Report for H4000 State Budget was adopted in the SC House by a vote of 105 – 6 and in the SC Senate by a vote of 32 – 8, both votes occurring Tuesday, May 21, 2019.   H4000 was ratified on May 21, 2019, and next is sent to the SC Governor.

As this May 21 version of the SC State Budget approved by both the SC House and SC Senate contains funding for genocidal mass murderers Planned Parenthood (Section 33 – DHHS), and also contains funding for certain ‘Abortions’ in the State Health Insurance Plan (Section 108 – PEBA), that means the version of the SC State Budget as passed by the SC Legislature on May 21 still requires South Carolina taxpayers to fund PLANNED PARENTHOOD for now and to fund certain ‘Abortions’.  If even one child in the womb is murdered during FY 2019-2020 ( July 1, 2019 – June 30, 2020 ) using funds appropriated in H4000 as approved May 21 by SC House members, and as approved May 21 by SC Senate members, as well as earlier applicable votes in the legislative process taken in the SC House and the SC Senate, then each and every House and Senate member voting to appropriate such money, or voting against efforts to stop the appropriation of such money, will consequently thereby be an accessory to murder before-the-fact, the fraudulent, unrighteous, immoral, and unconstitutional Opinion of the US Supreme Court in Roe v Wade notwithstanding.

Note: The SC DHHS funding of Planned Parenthood is NOT directly for surgical or RU-486 “abortions”, but for so-called “family planning funds”, which may include chemically abortifacient “birth control”. Any government (taxpayer) money given to Planned Parenthood helps sustain their operation as a child-murder center.  Two of the three stand-alone child-murder centers remaining in South Carolina are operated by Planned Parenthood [ located in Charleston and Columbia ].

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Note: This Report initially sent out by text on May 22.

[ Edited ]

Tues, May 21
SC State House

Republican-Super-Majority SC HOUSE and Republican-Majority SC SENATE approve SC State Budget Conf Comm Rpt with Baby-Killing (Proviso 108.4) and Baby-Killer/ Planned Parenthood (Proviso 33.25) FUNDING; Bill now goes to SC Gov McMaster
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SC House 5/21 Roll Call vote to adopt H4000 State Budget Conf Comm Rpt:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=16889

Result: Passed Yeas: 105; Nays: 6; Excused Absence: 7; Not Voting: 4

Note: Out of 122 House members, only 6 voted Nay: Hill, Jones, Long, Mace, Magnuson, Trantham;
105 voted Yea.

Note: SC House is 78 R, 44 D, 2 vac.(almost 64 percent “Republican”)
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SC Senate 5/21 Roll Call Vote to adopt H4000 State Budget Conf Comm Rpt:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=16879

RESULT: Passed Ayes: 32; Nays: 8; Excused Absence: 4

32 Ayes (18 R, 14 D)
Alexander, Allen, Bennett, Campbell, Campsen, Cromer, Davis, Fanning, Goldfinch, Gregory, Harpootlian, Hutto, Jackson, Johnson, Leatherman, Loftis, Martin, J. Matthews, McElveen, Nicholson, Peeler, Rankin, Reese, Sabb, Scott, Setzler, Shealy, Talley, Turner, Verdin, Williams, Young

8 Nays (8 R)
Cash, Climer, Corbin, Grooms, Hembree, Massey, Rice, Senn
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BABY-KILLING FUNDING

Funding of certain “abortions” in Proviso 108.4 through State Health Insurance Plan in H4000 State Budget Conf Comm Rpt:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/crp1b.htm#s108
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BABY-KILLER/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING

Ongoing funding for now of genocidal mass murderers Planned Parenthood in Proviso 33.25 through SC DHHS in H4000 State Budget Conf Comm Rpt:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/crp1b.htm#s33
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Will SC Governor McMaster line item veto Proviso 108.4 and Proviso 33.25?

Call SC Gov Office at 803-734-2100 and send e-mail through governor.sc.gov website.
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“God is not mocked” Galatians 6:7, kjv

Proverb 6:16,17, kjv

Hebrews 10:31, kjv

Columbia Christians for Life

Republican-Super-Majority SC House amends SC Senate April 18 version of SC State Budget (H4000) by first restoring House version passed March 13, including Planned Parenhood Funding (DHHS) and ‘Abortion’ Funding (PEBA); Amdt 1A adopted by 110-0 Vote

Published by:

Columbia Christians for Life ( CCL )
aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 9, 2019

May 7 Columbia, SC

Republican-Super-Majority SC House amends SC Senate April 18 version of SC State Budget ( H4000) by first restoring House version passed March 13, including Planned Parenhood Funding ( DHHS) and ‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA); Amdt 1A adopted by 110-0 Vote


living unborn baby at eight weeks
http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-at-8-weeks-pictures/

Note: The SC House amended the SC Senate version of the SC State Budget on May 7, starting off by replacing the entire Senate version with the version passed by the House on March 13, by a vote of 110-0 ( Amdt No. 1A). As the March 13 version passed by the SC House also contained funding for genocidal mass murderers Planned Parenthood (Section 33 – DHHS), and also contained funding for certain ‘Abortions’ in the State Health Insurance Plan (Section 108 – PEBA), that means the present version of the SC State Budget as of May 7 still requires South Carolina taxpayers to fund PLANNED PARENTHOOD for now and to fund certain ‘Abortions’.  If even one child in the womb is murdered during FY 2019-2020 ( July 1, 2019 – June 30, 2020 ) using funds appropriated in H4000 as approved May 7 by SC House members, and in applicable House Roll Call votes on March 12, March 13, then each and every House member voting to appropriate such money, or voting against efforts to stop the appropriation of such money, will consequently thereby be an accessory to murder before-the-fact, the fraudulent, unrighteous, immoral, and unconstitutional Opinion of the US Supreme Court in Roe v Wade notwithstanding.

Note: The SC DHHS funding of Planned Parenthood is NOT directly for surgical or RU-486 “abortions”, but for so-called “family planning funds”, which may include chemically abortifacient “birth control”. Any government (taxpayer) money given to Planned Parenthood helps sustain their operation as a child-murder center.  Two of the three stand-alone child-murder centers remaining in South Carolina are operated by Planned Parenthood [ located in Charleston and Columbia ].

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Note: This Report below, prior to editing, initially sent out by text on May 8, 2019.

[ Edited ]

Columbia, SC May 7, 2019

‘Republican-Super-Majority SC House amends SC Senate April 18 version of SC State Budget ( H4000) by first restoring House version passed March 13, including Planned Parenhood Funding ( DHHS) and ‘Abortion’ Funding ( PEBA); Amdt 1A adopted by 110-0 Vote

SC House: 79 R’s, 44 D’s, 1 vac.

See Amdt No. 1A; passed by vote of 110 Yeas, 0 Nays

SC House Journal for 5/7/2019
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190507.htm
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H.4000, SC State Budget for FY 2019-2020 – Part 1B, Section 33 (DHHS)
– As Passed by the SC House of Representatives on March 13, 2019

See ineffective Proviso 33.25, allowing Planned Parenthood funding to continue for now:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/hpp1b.htm#s33

(used instead of SC Governor McMaster’s effective Planned Parenthood de-funding Proviso 33.24
[ page down to page 327 ] from his 2019 proposed Executive Budget)
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H.4000, SC State Budget for FY 2019-2020 – Part 1B, Section 108 (PEBA)
– As Passed by the SC House of Representative on March 13, 2019

See Proviso 108.4 funding for certain “abortions” in SC State Health Insurance Plan:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/appropriations2019/hpp1b.htm#s108
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“Where there is no vision, the people perish:…”
Proverb 29:18, KJV

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http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/05/06/sc-senate-approves-state-budget-with-planned-parenthood-and-certain-abortion-funding-by-38-6-vote-april-18-2019/
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[SC] Transcript: Personhood Amendment Ruled Non-Germane to Incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘Heartbeat’ Bill by Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope on Point of Order – SC House of Representatives, Columbia, SC – April 24, 2019

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Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
June 4, 2019

SC House of Representatives
Columbia, SC – April 24, 2019

Transcript: Personhood Amendment Ruled Non-Germane to Incremental Child-Murder Regulation  ‘HeartbeatBill by Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope on Point of Order – April 24, 2019

Pro-‘Abortion’ [ !!!??? ] SC Rep. Bamberg (D) offers Personhood Amendment to supplant (replace) all the language of H3020 ‘Heartbeat’ Bill with the language of H3920 Personhood Bill

Selectively Pro -‘ Abortion‘ SC Rep. Clary (R) raises Point of Order on Germaneness

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Christians for Personhood:

Human Life begins at CONCEPTION NOT HEARTBEAT !!!

Note: The Republican-Super-Majority SC House passed H3020 Heartbeat Bill on Second Reading April 24 with the Mace rape and incest exceptionsAmendment.  The Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope ruled out of order the Amendment offered by Pro-“Abortion” [ !!!??? ] Rep. Bamberg (D) to adopt the Personhood Amendment with the exact verbatim language of the 2019 Personhood Bill H3920 in place of all the language of the Incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill which bans NO “abortions” before heartbeat detected.  H3020 was passed out of the SC House on Third Reading April 25, and the bill sent to SC Senate, where H3020 was assigned to Medical Affairs Committe April 25.

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Excerpt from Transcript below:

Regarding proposed Bamberg Personhood Amendment to Heartbeat Bill [ which the Republican House Speaker and the Republican Speaker Pro Tempore rejected as non-germane, with no vote taken by the SC House on the Appeal that was made challenging the Speaker’s Ruling by Pro-Personhood Rep. Hill (R) ]:

Rep. Bamberg: 
I would, Mr. Speaker, I would definitely agree that the [Personhood] Amendment is broader-based, and I think affords more protections to the unborn fetuses.  It does not specifically speak to the “abortion” procedure, because I think the language as it’s written, would effectively abolish all “abortions”.  [emphasis, word “Personhood” added]

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(Photo) ‘I AM A PERSON’ – 7 weeks from conception
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/03/13/photo-i-am-a-person-7-weeks-from-conception/

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Read (or listen and view below) the words of Pro-“Abortion” Rep. Bamberg (D) as he basically challenges the Republican Super-majority SC House to change “Heartbeat” Bill H3020 completely into the language of Personhood Bill H3920 !!!???

SC House: Personhood Amendment Ruled Non-Germane to Incremental Child-Murder Regulation HeartbeatBill by Republican Speaker Lucas and Republican Pro Tempore Pope on Point of Order – April 24, 2019

( AUDIO ) Rep. Bamberg (D) Amendment No. 2 ( Personhood Bill ) to H3020 Heartbeat Bill
Wednesday, April 24, 2019
Floor of SC House of Representatives, SC State House, Columbia, SC

[ Video available at SC Legislature Video Archives,
Wednesday, April 24, 2019  10:00 am
House of Representatives — House of Representatives – Part 2
   Begin at Video time 33:40 ]

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South Carolina LegislatureArchivesVideo Archives

Wednesday, April 24, 2019  10:00 am
House of Representatives — House of Representatives – Part 2
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php
Video – 2:59:07

[ BEGIN at Video time 33:40 ]

Speaker Lucas:  All right, we’re on Amendment 2.  Mr Bamberg is recognized on the Amendment.

Rep. Bamberg:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  This particular amendment, we’ve had ongoing debate here today and throughout committee with regards to “abortions”, and a lot of this stems from the discussion about when life begins, when life doesn’t begin, the science behind it, and there’s discussion with regards to constitutionality, and Roe v. Wade, and when a woman’s right to choose arises, and is there a viability.
This particular bill seeks to cut that down and go off a six-week time in which some say fetal heartbeats can be detected.  What we are proposing in this particular amendment is to, in this State, end the discussion about when life begins, or what constitutes a [sic] unborn child, or what constitutes a fetus or embryo or a zygote.  And we’ve heard time and time again about how important of an issue this is, and that’s one reason why, ya know, those of us have spoken on this, and there have been some heated debates and heated discussions.  What this particular amendment does, effectively changes the bill that is before us, and some may refer to this as “personhood”.  And I want to take a second, and I want to go through this for those of you, there are some other abortion bills that have been filed in the House or in the Senate. There are bills that discuss when a woman has a right to choose and when she doesn’t.  And what this does, it puts, puts that to bed officially.  And what I’m asking this Body to do, is to stand by the political stances that are taken, stand by the religious stances that are taken, and officially, officially protect unborn children, or fetuses, whichever you want to refer to it as, at the moment of conception.  The moment of fertilization is something that everyone understands and everyone can agree with is that, we find ourselves in a position where scientifically speaking …

Speaker Lucas:  Judge [ Rep. ] Clary, for what purpose do you rise ?

Rep. Clary:  Point of Order.

Speaker:  State your point.

Rep. Clary:  Mr Speaker, under Rule 9.3, I do not believe that this amendment is germane. The original bill is talking about a medical procedure, and I don’t know that this is consistent with that bill.

Speaker Lucas:  Mr. Bamberg, I’ll let you respond.

Rep. Bamberg:  Mr. Speaker, if I may.  This, this Amendment is very germane.  I think it is short-sighted, with all due respect to Judge Clary, a good friend of mine.  The bill is not just talking about a procedure.  We are talking about at what point does life begin.  And what the bill seeks to do, is establish that point at the point that a fetal heartbeat can be detected. What the amendment speaks to, is the same thing, it just changes the point in time in which we’re going to consider a fetus alive for purposes of the State having a sufficient interest to say that a woman cannot have an abortion.  That’s all we’re doing.  So my response is that this is absolutely germane based on the language of the bill itself.

Speaker Lucas:  Mr. Bamberg, would you mind if I ask you a few questions ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Of course, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Lucas:  Thank you, thank you, Mr. Bamberg.  Representative Bamberg, I’ve, I’ve read the bill, and I’m unfortunately find myself having to rule on the Personhood Amendment.  And for all disclosure, I am, I am for “personhood”, but the point that Judge Clary raises is germaneness.  I’m reading the bill, and it appears that your Amendment, it appears as three pages of Whereas clauses, and the Whereas clauses, you would agree to me, would not be law, they’re just Whereas clauses, they wouldn’t, if we adopted this, they wouldn’t be included in the, in the Code.  We generally don’t do that, is that correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Mr. Speaker, I, that is, yes as I understand it, but I would note that, I believe the underlying bill itself, contains some form of Whereas …

Speaker Lucas:  Yeah, maybe a little different.

Rep. Bamberg:  Yes sir.

Speaker Lucas:  But the meat of this Amendment would be found on page four, Section 1-1-330 and Section 1-1-340.  That would be the meat of your Amendment, if you take out the Preamble, and the Whereases, and those types of things that lawyers generally deal with.  Is that correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Yes Mr. Speaker, primarily Section 1-1-330 and Section 1-1-340 is the specific law.

Speaker Lucas:  And in those Sections, 1-1-330(B) or 1-1-340, you don’t deal with the issue of “abortion” in those two Sections.  What that appears to be doing, and correct me if I’m wrong, is, is, it makes a legal finding about when certain constitutional rights attach.  Is that correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Mr. Speaker, it does not mention the word “abortion”, but, as it is written, it speaks to the right to life, which is the underlying premise for the fetal Heartbeat Bill, as I understand it, which is the State of South Carolina saying, at the point of a fetal heartbeat, that unborn fetus or child has a right to live, and this Amendment speaks to that.

Speaker Lucas:  It does speak to that, but, but it’s also broader than that.  Would you agree with that statement ?  Because it talks about when certain constitutional rights attach, and those constitutional rights, one of the constitutional rights, which you correctly mentioned was the right to life, the other constitutional rights, one that’s specified, is equal protection of the laws.  Is that correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Yes, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Lucas:  So it is, it is, it is certainly broader than the bill we’re dealing with today, because whether you’re for or against the bill we’re dealing with today, it is a very long, complex bill dealing with a medical procedure.  Would you say my characterization of that is correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  I would, Mr. Speaker, I would definitely agree that the Amendment is broader-based, and I think affords more protections to the unborn fetuses.  It does not specifically speak to the “abortion” procedure, because I think the language as it’s written, would effectively abolish all “abortions”.  But yeah, it’s way broader, I would definitely agree with that, yes sir.

Speaker Lucas:  And then it’s actually in a, a, and I know this is not dispositive upon my ruling, it’s actually in Section 1 of the Code.  Your Amendment would affect Section 1 of the Code, where if this bill essentially deals with Section 44 of the Code, dealing with medical procedures.  Is that correct ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Yes, Mr. Speaker, that’s correct.

Speaker Lucas:  And in my deliberations of looking at Rule 9.3, provides that no amendment on a subject different than the one under consideration be permitted.  That’s what the Rule says.  That’s given rise to the “substantial effect” test which Speakers before me have utilized to judge whether amendments to bills under consideration are germane or not.  So, Mr. Bamberg, I’ll listen to, to additional arguments if you have them.
I’m going to take a second after listening to your answers, to look at the bill and look at the Amendment. And you can even consult with counsel if you desire.  You may want to get a better lawyer, but. ..
No, Mr. Stavrinakis is an outstanding lawyer, and I’d certainly respect him on that, but …
Mr. Bamberg, anything further that you wanted to tell me about this while, while I look at it, before I look at it?

Rep. Bamberg:  Mr. Speaker, I’d like to thank you for giving me the time to kind of go through this. I’m glad that I don’t have to be cross-examined by you on the witness stand.  But I would just argue again this is, in my opinion, germane.  It is, it is broader than the underlying bill.  While the fetal heartbeat bill does speak to “abortions”, it also talks inherently about when life exists, when it begins, and when the State wants to protect that unborn interest.  And this Amendment speaks to the same thing, and would accomplish, accomplish that, but in a much simpler manner than the underlying bill.

Speaker Lucas:  It, it, it, it, it, I know you understand, I know you do a lot of legal work, certainly personal injury work. We’ve spoken to this issue, on the issue of civil claims, have we not ?

Rep. Bamberg:  Yes, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Lucas:  And, and actually talked about when civil claims certainly attached based upon, on, on unborn child at what point that’s done, so this is, this is not new territory for us.  Let me, if you would Mr. Bamberg, let me take a look. Those are questions I had.  I’m going to, if the House will stand in recess just a moment.  I’ll take a look at the Amendment and the bill.  I obviously understand this is very important and we want to try to be correct on this. So thank you Mr. Bamberg, and thank you for answering my questions honestly, …

Rep. Bamberg:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Lucas:  … as I knew you would.

SC House of Representatives
IS STANDING AT EASE
[ Video time 45:38 to 46:22 – less than one minute transpires.  It appears the Speaker’s statement below was substantively prepared in advance. ]

Speaker Lucas:  Allright, House’ll, House’ll be in order.  I’ve had the opportunity to examine House Bill 3020 and its provisions, and I’ve also examined Amendment No. 2 as offered by Representative Bamberg. My job as the presiding officer is to determine whether the Amendment relates to the “same subject” or meets the “substantial effect” test as laid out in 9.3 and past House precedent.

The Bill before us, House Bill 3020, is a comprehensive health regulation scheme that governs the delivery of health care to a specific class of patients. The Bill requires identified health care providers to take very specific steps before they are permitted to perform certain procedures. The Bill also specifically prohibit the performance of “abortion” procedures in defined circumstances. The Bill defines the terms as it uses them and applies them within its complex framework.

So the Bill itself is a very specific bill.  The Amendment, however is, is a very general bill.  It does contain a set of legislative findings which would not become law, but the crux of the Amendment would be to declare fertilization as the point that rights would vest, all rights, right to life, due process, equal protection of the law, that those rights would vest upon conception.

And, and, Mr. Bamberg, I agree that it should be the law, but that’s not the issue before us, the issue before us is germaneness.  As I have reviewed the applicable precedent on the application of this Rule, it has been clear that one of the primary considerations by several Speakers before me, as we’ve looked through the precedents book, has been the scope of the underlying legislation.  By your testimony, not by your testimony, but by your very candid answers, you admitted to me, that this Bill is much, much broader than what we’re attempting to deal with today.  At least a dozen times, the Clerk informs me, three separate Speakers have ruled that any amendment that expands the original scope of legislation beyond the subject of the bill is non-germane.  While the issue of healthcare and “abortion” have not been specifically ruled on, distinctions have been made concerning subjects less inclusive [ Note: House Journal for April 24, 2019 says “exclusive” in transcription/paraphrase of Speaker’s remarks ] of one another than the grant of due process to an entire new class of citizens in South Carolina and a comprehensive healthcare regulation.

Therefore, I find Amendment No. 2 exceeds the scope of House Bill 3020 and I sustain Judge [ Rep. ] Clary’s Point of Order, and I find the Amendment out of order.  Clerk will read.

Rep. Hill:  Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Lucas:  Yes, Mr Hill.

Rep. Hill:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Pursuant to House Rule 1.5, I appeal that ruling.

Speaker Lucas:  Thank you, Mr Hill

[ House Journal for April 24, 2019:
“… the SPEAKER called the SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE to the Chair to act as Presiding Officer.” ]

Speaker Lucas vacates the Chair.
Speaker Pro Tem Pope in the Chair.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Ladies and Gentlemen, the Speaker’s ruling concerning germanenesss has been appealed under Rule 1.5.  Any member that wishes to be heard on this matter is, is welcome to come up and speak for no longer than 20 minutes.  Mr. Hill requests that he be heard on this matter.

Rep. Hill:  Thank you Mr. Speaker.  Thank you members.  My point in doing this here is simply, I want to call to your attention, I’m not going to call names here, but I recently heard one of my colleagues quip that germaneness is in the eye of the beholder.  That certainly does seem to be the case with how some rulings come down, sometimes they make sense, sometimes maybe they don’t.  In this case, this is, we’re dealing, we have before us the opportunity to vote on an Amendment, that while worded significantly differently, and inserted into a different point in statute, has the same substantial effect, I believe, of essentially banning all “abortions” in South Carolina.  This Amendment, a personhood approach, I believe does a more
thorough job of that.  And at the very least, I think it should be up to this Body whether, which direction we take on this policy.  And so, I want a chance to vote on it here on the House floor.  That’s, that’s why I made,  that’s why I appealed the ruling.  Thank you.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Mr. McCravy is recognized.

Rep. McCravy:  Thank you Mr. Speaker.  Just briefly, the ruling is correct in my opinion.  You have Title 44 that’s been amended and added to by the bill.  This bill has Section 1-1-330, a completely different part of the Code, because it talks about the rights of an individual, so it’s completely different. I agree, ultimately, with probably the ultimate conclusion of the Personhood Bill, and I’ve signed on to the Personhood Bill, but this, this would be improper to attach it to this bill, and make this bill a completely different bill.  So, I agree with the ruling on it.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Mr. King, Mr King, are you requesting to speak, sir?

Rep King:  Yes sir.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  OK, Mr. King is recognized to speak.  Mr. King.

Rep King:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  And, I would like to say, I would appreciate the opportunity to stand here and speak about this particular Amendment.  It is my understanding that we are here today to debate “abortions” in South Carolina.  The banning, or the beginning to identify, life.  And I’ve heard many colleagues today say that we want to protect life.  And we want to insure that once a lady or a woman is impregnated, that they go full term and have their child.  This gives us that opportunity.  To vote, to say that there is no “abortions’ to be done in South Carolina. So I want to be clear.  You voting against this Amendment, mean that you want to allow “abortions” to happen in South Carolina. You voting for this Amendment means that you want to ban “abortions” in South Carolina.  So I want to say, please understand how you’re voting.  And if this is what you …

Speaker Pro Tem Pope: Mr. King, I apologize, sir.  Mr. King, this is about the appeal as to the Speaker’s ruling. This is not about the Amendment.

Rep. King:  Thank you.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Allright, thank you.  Any further wish to speak on the appeal of the Speaker’s ruling ? Ladies and Gentlemen, Rule [1].5 allows for an appeal on the Speaker’s ruling.  My role as I see it before you is just two-fold.  One, I am to determine whether the Speaker in his judgment, ruling under Rule 9.3 abused his discretion. Second, and again the rules are not clear, so I’m going to hit this both ways; one, whether Speaker Lucas abused his discretion, number two, whether the underlying germaneness ruling was appropriate.  I find first, Mr. Hill, that he did not abuse his discretion.  I look also at the fact that he considered applicable precedent in the application of this rule, and that his ruling has a founding basis both in precedent, and in the law as presented before us.  Therefore, I find that he did not abuse his discretion.  Also that the, the ruling as to germaneness was appropriate, and that is my ruling.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Mr Hill is recognized.

Rep. Hill:  Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker.  It, this is a point of parliamentary inquiry, I guess you would say. It is my understanding that, under parliamentary procedure that appealing, or appealing the ruling of the Chair would result in a vote.  Can you clarify if that is indeed the process ?

Speaker Pro Tem Pope:  Under the Rules as I’ve seen them Mr. Hill, I have seen no indication it requires a vote.  I think it requires me to make a decision.  I’ve made that decision sir.  Thank you.

Speaker Pro Tem Pope vacates the Chair.
Speaker Lucas in the Chair.

Speaker Lucas:  We’re on Amendment No. 3.  Clerk’ll read.

[ END at Video time 57:28 ]

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