Video Archives: SC House Judiciary Special Laws Subcommittee
and full SC House Judiciary Committee (“Abortion” Ban Legislation)
– August 16, 2022
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SC House Judiciary Special Laws Subcommittee
(“Abortion” Ban Legislation)
Subcommittee Meeting and Vote
( 3 to 1 to Adopt Recommended Language as an Amendment to H5399 )
August 16, 2022
Blatt House Office Building
Room 110
State House Grounds
Columbia, South Carolina
https://scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php?key=12484&part=1
Video – 51:35 ( Begin 49:10 for Voting on Adoption of Recommended Language as an Amendment to H5399 )
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Video – Begin 7:20
Special Laws Subcommittee Chairman Representative John McCravy:
“As stated earlier, the current Fetal Heartbeat Bill as well as this proposed language allowed any legitimate healthcare procedure necessary to prevent the death or serious bodily impairment of the mother. In this proposed language, the Committee takes this clarity to a new level, by giving examples of medical conditions that are presumed to threaten the life or serious health of the mother.” [ emphasis added ]
Video – Begin 7:45
Special Laws Subcommittee Chairman Representative John McCravy:
“At the same time, the proposed language makes it perfectly clear that anytime a live in utero preborn child must be separated from the mother to preserve her life or health, the child may not be killed in the womb before being separated, unless there’s no other way to save the mother’s life or serious health.” [ emphasis added ]
Christians for Personhood Note: The 2012 Dublin Declaration on Maternal Health ( DublinDeclaration.com ) affirms it is NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY to purposefully destroy the baby by direct “abortion” to save the life of the mother [ “abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman.” Dublin Declaration ]. However, above and beyond this thankful medical consideration that we NEED NOT, is the moral and ethical consideration that we MUST NOT ever intentionally destroy an innocent life; and therefore, under God, we CAN NOT, and SHALL NOT, do so, because God says, “Thou shalt not kill (murder).” Exodus 20:13, KJV.
Therefore, the Recommended Language for H5399, as adopted by the Ad Hoc Committee by a 9 [8R,1D] to 3 [3D] vote on July 19, 2022; and as adopted unchanged as an Amendment to H5399 by the House Judiciary Special Laws Subcommittee by a 3 [3R] to 1 [1D] vote on August 16, 2022; and as passed favorably unchanged as H5399, as amended, by the full House Judiciary Committee by a 13 [13R] to 7 [7D] and 5 Not Voting [3R, 2D] vote later on August 16, 2022, in this particular of allowing the INTENTIONAL KILLING OF AN INNOCENT PREBORN CHILD, IS UNETHICAL, IMMORAL, UNJUST, AND UNBIBLICAL. No Bible-believing Christian should support this Recommended Language which is now the language for the amended form of H5399 with this provision for INTENTIONAL KILLING. Where in the Holy Scriptures is mankind given the authority under God to intentionally take a judicially innocent life ?
From Recommended Language:
Section 44-41-830.
(C) It is presumed that the following medical conditions constitute a substantial risk of death or substantial risk of a substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function of a pregnant woman: molar pregnancy, partial molar pregnancy, blighted ovum, ectopic pregnancy, severe preeclampsia, HELLP syndrome, abruptio placentae, severe maternal trauma, uterine rupture, intrauterine fetal demise, and miscarriage. However, when an unborn child is alive in utero, the physician must make all reasonable efforts to deliver and save the life of an unborn child during the process of separating the unborn child from the pregnant woman, to the extent it does not adversely affect the life or health of the pregnant woman, and in a manner consistent with reasonable medical practice. The enumeration of the medical conditions in this subsection is not intended to exclude or abrogate other conditions that satisfy the exclusions of subsection (A) or prevent other procedures that are not included in the definition of abortion in Section 44-41-810.
[ emphasis added ]
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Video – Begin 14:40
Special Laws Subcommittee Chairman Representative John McCravy:
“All preborn lives matter in this bill, and all innocent lives are protected, regardless of the circumstances of conception or disability.”
Christians for Personhood Note: FALSE. ALL innocent lives are absolutely NOT protected in this bill.
– Human Life begins at conception/fertilization, NOT at the point of “clinically diagnosable pregnancy” which is the point at which protection begins in this bill (Section 44-41-810.).
– While giving priority to delivering and saving the life of the unborn child in the circumstance of the mother’s life/serious health being at risk, this bill nevertheless still allows for a “permitted abortion” (Section 44-41-830.(B)).
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SC House Full Judiciary Committee
(“Abortion” Ban Legislation)
Committee Meeting and Vote
( 13 [13R] to 7 [7D] and 5 Not Voting [3R, 2D] on Favorable Passage of H5399 as amended with the Recommended Language )
August 16, 2022
Blatt House Office Building
Room 110
State House Grounds
Columbia, South Carolina
https://scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php?key=12485&part=1
Video – 1:52:48 ( Begin 1:50:10 for Voting on Favorable Passage of H5399 as amended with the Recommended Language )
Video – Begin 6:35
Representative John McCravy:
“At the same time, the proposed language makes it perfectly clear that anytime a live in utero preborn child must be separated from the mother to preserve her life or health, the child may not be killed in the womb before being separated, unless there’s no other way to save the mother’s life or serious health. In other words, these procedures may not be used as an excuse to kill a living preborn child. This language is consistent with the position of … pro-life [?] OB/GYN’s who state there is almost never a reason to terminate the life of a child before separating it from the mother.” [ emphasis added ]
Christians for Personhood Note: The 2012 Dublin Declaration on Maternal Health ( DublinDeclaration.com ) affirms it is NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY to purposefully destroy the baby by direct “abortion” to save the life of the mother [ “abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman.” Dublin Declaration ]. However, above and beyond this thankful medical consideration that we NEED NOT, is the moral and ethical consideration that we MUST NOT ever intentionally destroy an innocent life; and therefore, under God, we CAN NOT, and SHALL NOT, do so, because God says, “Thou shalt not kill (murder).” Exodus 20:13, KJV.
Therefore, the Recommended Language for H5399, as adopted by the Ad Hoc Committee by a 9 [8R,1D] to 3 [3D] vote on July 19, 2022; and as adopted unchanged as an Amendment to H5399 by the House Judiciary Special Laws Subcommittee by a 3 [3R] to 1 [1D] vote on August 16, 2022; and as passed favorably unchanged as H5399, as amended, by the full House Judiciary Committee by a 13 [13R] to 7 [7D] and 5 Not Voting [3R, 2D] vote later on August 16, 2022, in this particular of allowing the INTENTIONAL KILLING OF AN INNOCENT PREBORN CHILD, IS UNETHICAL, IMMORAL, UNJUST, AND UNBIBLICAL. No Bible-believing Christian should support this Recommended Language which is now the language for the amended form of H5399 with this provision for INTENTIONAL KILLING. Where in the Holy Scriptures is mankind given the authority under God to intentionally take a judicially innocent life ?
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Video – Begin 14:20
Representative John McCravy:
“All preborn lives matter in this bill, and all innocent lives are protected, regardless of the circumstances of conception or disability.”
Christians for Personhood Note: FALSE. ALL innocent lives are absolutely NOT protected in this bill.
– Human Life begins at conception/fertilization, NOT at the point of “clinically diagnosable pregnancy” which is the point at which protection begins in this bill (Section 44-41-810.).
– While giving priority to delivering and saving the life of the unborn child in the circumstance of the mother’s life/serious health being at risk, this bill nevertheless still allows for a “permitted abortion” (Section 44-41-830.(B)).
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