Category Archives: 2018 SC Legislature

Difference Between Personhood Bill and Dismemberment Bill

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Letter to the Editor
The Times Examiner, Greenville, SC
INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE
Anne Schell, Greenville, SC
April 11, 2018

“Those standing behind the Personhood Bill are coming from a Biblical perspective …”
“Those of us who believe the Personhood Bill should be promoted do so because we believe God will honor His Word when His people step out in faith.”
Proverbs 24:11-12

 

Dear Editor,

Many may be confused (pastors included) about the differences between the Personhood Bill and the Dismemberment Bill being presented before the SC Senate – why one should take priority over the other.

One of the main differences is WHO is supporting each of the bills. Those standing behind the Personhood Bill are coming from a Biblical  perspective while those who represent the Dismemberment Bill (NRL – National Right to Life & SCCL – South Carolina Citizens for Life) are coming from a political perspective.

Some in the NRL may be Christians but almost all backing the Personhood Bill are primarily Bible-based Christians. Some in the NRL consider their ways, in my opinion, more “intellectual” than merely relying on God’s Word as a basis for action.

Those of us who believe the Personhood Bill should be promoted do so because we believe God will honor His Word when His people step out in faith. God honored Joshua and Caleb’s faith when the other spies thought they would fail if they confronted the “giants” in Canaan.

Abortion is the giant in our land today. But God is the same today as He was thousands of years ago. Let us be bold and confident in our Lord who will go before us if we proceed in faith.

Please, pray for the presentation and passage of the Personhood Bill (S217).

“If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth he not know it? and shall he render to every man according to his works?” Proverbs 24: 11-12

Anne Schell – Greenville, SC

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http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2018-04-22-Difference-Between-Personhood-Bill-and-Dismemberment-Bill-Letter-to-the-Editor-Times-Examiner-Apr-11-2018.pdf

(The Times Examiner) SC Legislature: Redefining How to Kill Babies

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Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
March 25, 2018

The Times Examiner ( Greenville, SC ), March 21, 2018:

INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE

General Assembly: Redefining How to Kill Babies

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The Times Examiner, Greenville, SC
INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE

‘General Assembly: Redefining How to Kill Babies’  [ three pages ]
March 21, 2018
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2018-03-24-General-Assembly-Redefining-How-to-Kill-Babies-Times-Examiner-Mar-21-2018.pdf

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Excerpts:

[ SC House Rep. Linda ] Bennett, the bill’s sponsor, was reported in The State saying her bill [ H.3548 ] would not stop physicians from performing the procedure [ dismemberment ].  It would, however,  require doctors to kill the fetus before it is removed, she said.  [ emphasis, hyperlink to The State added ]

“All this bill does is require them to euthanize the baby before they rip it apart in the mother’s womb,”
Bennett said.  [ emphasis added ]

“I don’t like that we even do this procedure,” the Charleston Republican said.  “But if we can at least make it more humane, less painful, to the unborn child … I want to remove as much pain as I possibly can.” [ emphasis added ]  [ CP Note: The preborn child is still exterminated.  Proverb 12:10b, KJV ]

Will the Senate Republican Leadership leapfrog the incremental abortion regulation dismemberment bill (H3548) over the Personhood Bill (S217) and promote giving Special Order status to H3548 ahead of S217?

The State article exposes more of the depraved nature of the bill where sponsor Representative Linda Bennett of the dismemberment bill discusses the “humaneness” of the bill because it requires euthanizing of the baby, inside the womb, BEFORE he or she can be dismembered… Ponder on that for more than a moment…  This is a result of National Right to Life and their SC chapter, SC Citizens for Life‘s ability to dilute the idea of what it means to be “pro-life.”  [ emphasis added ]

Somehow, in this godless universe, lawmakers and pastors have rationalized incrementally regulating murder. If the “process,” the ripping apart of a human child from the womb, is sanitized, then it is acceptable to these same lawmakers and pastors to murder the child.  It is truly the time of calling evil, good and good, evil; putting darkness for light and light for darkness; bitter for sweet and sweet bitter.  (Isaiah 5:20)  Lawmakers, pastors and pseudo pro-life organizations are continuing in a dedicated battle to keep murder, legal.  [ emphasis added ]

SC Senate Leadership, specifically Leatherman (R-Florence) and Massey (R-Edgefield) once again, did not move for Special Order for S217 on March 14, 2018.  Senate President Pro Tem Leatherman moved for closing the Motion [P]eriod  which is the place on the Senate calendar when Senator Massey could have moved for a 2/3rds floor vote Special Order despite the apparent obstruction of Leatherman, Campsen (R-Charleston) and Reese (D-Inman) on Massey’s Rules Committee but, Massey did not so move.”  [ CP Note: By Leatherman moving to close the Motion Period, and by the Republican-majority body of Senators in the chamber then going along with Leatherman’s motion, neither Massey nor any other Senator is able to make a motion during the Motion Period.  However, if the Republican-majority body of Senators would by a simple majority vote object to Leatherman’s motion, then Senator Massey OR ANY OTHER SENATOR could move for Special Order for S217.  This has not been done NOT because it cannot be done procedurally, but because the Republican-majority Senate has NOT WILLED it to be done. ]

This country’s intentionally misdirected attention to gun issues distracts from this moral dilemma being experienced as the country moves further from being virtuous and righteous: requirements recognized more than 200 years ago by the framers as being essential to maintaining freedom and liberty.  [ emphasis added ]

The legal pretexts for the ongoing slaughter inside the womb where the most innocent reside without due process of law or equal protection of the laws is directly connected to the horrific violence occurring outside the womb where by extension: why would anyone expect life to be respected?

Hosea 4:6:  My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:  because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
[ emphasis added, Hosea 4:6, KJV ]

Those who wish to appear pro-life are using their very visible votes for dismemberment to portray themselves as being humane yet there will still be dead children whose lives are being sacrificed to insulate those who legislate incremental murder from having to take a principled stand against bad law. [ emphasis added ]

The Supreme Court opinions are not synonymous with the U.S. Constitution and Judicial Supremacy is not god.
When is the General Assembly going to recognize that supporting a pretended good is defeating what is best?
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Matthew, Mark and Luke all share this reminder that it is better for a millstone to be hanged about one’s neck and be cast into the sea [than] that one should offend one of the little ones… It could be supposed that murder might be considered somewhat offensive, terrifying, frightening, and permanent.  Incremental murder is no less offensiveMutilation is offensive. This State’s debate on what the right way to kill a child is, is… offensive.  This has to stop.  [ emphasis added ]

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From Christians for Personhood:

The SC Personhood Bill S.217 is competing with the “Dismemberment Bill” H.3548 for the attention of the SC Senate for being set for Special Order and actually getting debated on the floor of the Senate.

Christians, please contact SC Republican Senators, and SC Democrat Senators Jackson, Reese, and Williams, and ask them to support setting S.217 Personhood Bill for Special Order FIRST, immediately, before considering H.3548 “Dismemberment bill” for Special Order.

The April 10 “cross over” date under regular order for bills to be sent from the Senate to the House ( or from the House to the Senate ) may be just four legislative working days away ( March 27, 28, 29; April 10 ) if the SC Senate takes a week off the first week in April ( April 3, 4, 5 ).

Contact info for all SC Senators at: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/, click on ‘Senators

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Christians for Personhood SC Senate Lobbying Memo
March 14, 2018 – Re: S217 Personhood Act of SC
The Son of God, “Jesus said, Thou shalt do not murder, …” Matthew 19:18, KJV / “Abortion” is Murder.
ALL Human Beings are Persons.  Fear God.  Proverb 1:7   Proverb 8:13   Proverb 9:10   Proverb 16:6b, KJV
Obey your Oath, So Help you God, to Establish Justice.  PASS PERSONHOOD NOW!

(Photo)
‘I AM A PERSON’ – 7 weeks from conception
 and “How To Receive Salvation of the Spirit”
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2018-03-12-I-AM-A-PERSON-7-weeks-from-conception.pdf

(The Times Examiner) ‘Personhood Act Passes Senate Judiciary Committee By 12Y – 9N’

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Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
March 11, 2018

The Times Examiner ( Greenville, SC ), Feb. 28, 2018:

INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE

‘Personhood Act Passes Senate Judiciary Committee By 12Y – 9N’

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The Times Examiner, Greenville, SC
INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE

‘Personhood Act Passes Senate Judiciary Committee By 12Y – 9N’
February 28, 2018
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2018-03-12-Personhood-Act-Passes-Senate-Judiciary-Comm-By-12Y-9N-The-Times-Examiner-Feb-28-2018.pdf
 

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Excerpts:

“Now a Special Order status for S.217 is needed so that it will actually be debated on the floor of the Senate.”

“Please contact the Republican Senators in the SC Senate (http://www.scstatehouse.gov) and urge them to advocate among their Republican Senate colleagues for Special Order status for S.217.”

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Additional postings provided by Christians for Personhood:

By definition, there are no “exceptions” to Human ( Natural ) Personhood:

Personhood Report: In Law, No Exceptions to Human Personhood
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/01/30/personhood-report-in-law-no-exceptions-to-human-personhood/

Personhood Report: No Exceptions to Personhood
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/01/29/personhood-report-no-exceptions-to-personhood/

If there are  any “EXCEPTIONS” to Personhood, then we no longer have Personhood, nor a Personhood Bill.

The Times Examiner ( Greenville, SC )
INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE VOICE OF THE PALMETTO STATE

‘Personhood and 2018 SC Legislature’
‘Pass Personhood Now !’
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2018-01-09-Personhood-and-2018-SC-Legislature-Pass-Personhood-Now!-The-Times-Examiner-Jan-03-2018.pdf
January 3, 2018

SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR HENRY McMASTER LETTER
South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster :
“Please know that I strongly support the Personhood Act (H.3530 and S.217) and look forward to signing it into law.”
Letter to Dr. Matthew Clark, Chairman of the Board, Personhood South Carolina
October 2, 2017


‘GOD Has Shown US Great MERCY…What Will We Do with the OPPORTUNITY?
Letter to the Editor / Opinion Editorial
Steve Lefemine, Christian pro-life missionary
dir., Columbia Christians for Life
exec. dir. Christians for Personhood
November 12, 2016 / Edited, Revised November 14, 2016
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2016-11-12-GOD-Has-Shown-US-Great-MERCY-Letter-to-the-Editor.pdf


Personhood is Abolition
Personhood is abolition.  Here in South Carolina, we have advocated passage of State personhood legislation continuously for the last 19 years since 1998
[ History of Personhood Legislation in South Carolina ( 1998 – 2016 )  ].
The current 2017 legislation in the SC Legislature is called the Personhood Act of South Carolina ( S .217 / H.3530).
– South Carolina Personhood legislation recognizes the Creator God-given, unalienable right to life of every human being as a “person” beginning at fertilization, in SC law.
Steve Lefemine
exec. dir., Christians for Personhood
March 15, 2017 [ Edited July 15, 2017 ]
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2017-03-15-Personhood-is-Abolition-edited-July-15-2017.pdf


‘For the Murdered Unborn, Incrementalism is Not Justice’
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2017/04/11/for-the-murdered-unborn-incrementalism-is-not-justice/
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2017-04-10-Incrementalism-is-Not-Justice-Incrementalism-is-Evil.pdf


Black’s Law Dictionary (2009): Person = “A Human Being”

“person. … 1. A human being. – Also termed natural person.
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2013-12-09-Blacks-Law-Dictionary-Person-3.pdf
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2013-12-11%20%20Blacks%20Law%20Dictionary%202009;%20Person%20=%20A%20Human%20Being.docx


LEGAL EXPERTS SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF STATE-LEVEL PERSONHOOD LEGISLATION
IN SC (2001), MISS (2009), ALA (2011), and OK (2012):
 – Herb Titus is an attorney, constitutional scholar, author, the founding Dean of College of Law/Gov’t at Regent University
Mathew Staver is former Dean of the School of Law at Liberty University; and Liberty Counsel founder and chair
– Judge Roy Moore, Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, is President Emeritus of Foundation for Moral Law
   April 5, 2016
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2016-04-05-Legal-experts-supporting-constitutionality-of-State-level-Personhood-legislation-SC-MISS-ALA-OK-edited-Jan-27-2017.pdf

[The State] Personhood Bill S.217 to outlaw all “abortions” in South Carolina passed favorably by Senate Judiciary Committee, by 12 – 9 vote

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Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
February 20, 2018

Personhood Bill S .217 to outlaw all “abortions” in South Carolina passed favorably by Senate Judiciary Committee, by 12 – 9 vote
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After the vote, Gov. McMaster praised the [ Senate Judiciary ] committee’s decision.

“I believe that human life begins at conception, and I believe the people of South Carolina deserve for their laws to reflect the values they hold dear,” the Richland Republican said in a statement.
“I applaud the Senate Judiciary Committee’s decision to move this important legislation forward and ask that the Senate pass it without delay.”

The State ( Columbia, SC )
Plan to outlaw all abortions in South Carolina gets OK from Senate panel
http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article201090564.html
February 20, 2018

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[ Pro-“Abortion” ] The State ( Columbia, SC )
Plan to outlaw all abortions in South Carolina gets OK from Senate panel
http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article201090564.html
February 20, 2018 01:30 PM
Updated 31 minutes ago

[ CP Note: Emphasis added; comments, additional information in bold red added ]

A Republican proposal that, effectively, would ban all abortions in South Carolina is headed to the full Senate for a vote despite concerns it could criminalize fertility treatment [ FALSES .217 would NOT ban in vitro fertilization; it does affirm right of SC General Assembly to regulate in vitro procedures.  Any practice attendant to in vitro fertilization which kills a preborn human being could be banned by further legislation. ] and some types of birth control [ S .217 does NOT ban contraception.  Any “birth control” which causes chemical “abortions” would have to be proven by the State of South Carolina to function in that way ], and ban abortions performed to save the mother’s life [ FALSE ].

A state Senate committee [ full Judiciary Committee ] OK’d [ favorably passed ] the proposal Tuesday after two hours of debate, voting 12-9 along party lines to extend legal rights to fertilized eggs [ sic – zygotes / embryos / fetuses / all pre-birth human beings ] at the moment of conception [ same as fertilization ].

One Republican on the panel did not vote on the proposal [ Senator Sandy Senn (R-Charleston) ], saying it was unconstitutional [ sic – See LEGAL EXPERTS SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF STATE-LEVEL PERSONHOOD LEGISLATION IN SC (2001), MISS (2009), ALA (2011), and OK (2012) ].  However, advocates see the proposal as a way, possibly, to overturn the 1972 [ sic – 1973 ] Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion [ sic“Abortion” is NOT legal ].

The proposal [ S .217 Personhood Bill of South Carolina], which must pass the full Senate and House, has been praised by abortion opponents and condemned by [ sic – some ] medical and [ sic – some ] women’s rights groups.

The “Personhood Act” [ S .217 ] that GOP senators approved Tuesday was sponsored by Lt. Gov. Kevin Bryant – when he still was a state senator – and endorsed by Gov. Henry McMaster.  Both are seeking the Republican nomination for governor in June’s GOP primary, where the abortion issue is a key one to Republican voters.

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The Personhood Act would outlaw … [ all ] … of the nearly 6,000 abortions performed in South Carolina each year.
Just two other states – Kansas and Missouri – have a personhood law. But in both states, that law is expressly subject to the U.S. Constitution [ FALSE – Kansas and Missouri have subjected themselves “to the Constitution of the United States, AND decisional interpretations thereof by the United States Supreme Court …” ( in other words, to Supreme Court OPINIONS about what the written text of the US Constitution says, which according to Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution itself, are NOT what comprise “the supreme Law of the Land”. ]  [ emphasis added ]

Its champion in the Senate, Richard Cash, R-Anderson, says the proposal is intended to spark a court case that could be used to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that affirmed a woman’s right to have an abortion under the 14th Amendment.
[ CP Note: By DENYING the PERSONHOOD of pre-birth human beings ].

“We are trying to challenge the Supreme Court on their fundamental error that a human being is not a person,” Cash said. “A human being is a person.”

[ CP Note: Black’s Law Dictionary, used by attorneys states:  “person” – “A human being.” ]

Senate Democrats on Tuesday complained the proposal, even after a revision Tuesday, leaves too many questions unanswered.

“I don’t think the authors of this bill and the authors of this amendment have considered the consequences,” said state Sen. Thomas McElveen, D-Sumter. “We need to do our job here. Our job is to get out as good of legislation as we can … before we get it on the floor for debate.”

Democrats relayed concerns from fertility specialists who said they don’t want to be charged with murder for disposing of any fertilized eggs that aren’t used during in-vitro fertilization.

Cash replied the bill explicitly does not outlaw in-vitro fertilization. But, the Anderson Republican added, fertilization clinics “should not be allowed to destroy the eggs.”

Opponents also worry the Personhood Act could target doctors who perform abortions in medical emergencies that threaten the mother’s life. An amendment to Cash’s bill states that a doctor cannot be charged for the accidental or unintentional death of an unborn child if that doctor is making “reasonable medical efforts” to save both the mother and child during a medical emergency.

Democrats also weren’t happy that the bill makes no exception for abortion in cases of rape or incest.

Cash didn’t back down after state Sen. Margie Bright Matthews, D-Colleton, offered a hypothetical situation involving a 11-year-old girl.

“If a child is raped, yes, that is a horrible act,” Cash said. “Two wrongs don’t make a right. You cannot erase the rape by killing the child. The child is an innocent person.”

“Have you ever been raped?” state Sen. Mia McLeod, D-Richland, asked, starting a line of questioning that Cash refused to answer. “Have you ever been pregnant?”

Cash said the bill is not intended to outlaw birth control but said the bill doesn’t expressly state that intention because “birth control pills, the way that they are formulated, have and could change over time.”

The bill faces heavy opposition from Senate Democrats, who can use the chamber’s rules to hold it up. An earlier version of the bill died on the Senate floor in 2016.

State Sen. Sandy Senn, R-Charleston, abstained from voting, saying she thinks the bill is unconstitutional but didn’t want to vote against a pro-life proposal.

After the vote, Gov. McMaster praised the [ Senate Judiciary ] committee’s decision.

“I believe that human life begins at conception, and I believe the people of South Carolina deserve for their laws to reflect the values they hold dear,” the Richland Republican said in a statement. “I applaud the Senate Judiciary Committee’s decision to move this important legislation forward and ask that the Senate pass it without delay.”

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Additional information provide by Christians for Personhood:

LEGAL EXPERTS SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF STATE-LEVEL PERSONHOOD LEGISLATION
IN SC (2001), MISS (2009), ALA (2011), and OK (2012):
Herb Titus is an attorney, constitutional scholar, author, the founding Dean of College of Law/Gov’t at Regent University
Mathew Staver is former Dean of the School of Law at Liberty University; and Liberty Counsel founder and chair
– Judge Roy Moore, Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, is President Emeritus of Foundation for Moral Law
  April 5, 2016
http://christianlifeandliberty.net/2016-04-05-Legal-experts-supporting-constitutionality-of-State-level-Personhood-legislation-SC-MISS-ALA-OK-edited-Jan-27-2017.pdf    

“PERSONHOOD” is the key to ENDING child-murder-by-‘abortion’A plain reading of the 5th and 14th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, and analogous due process and equal protection language in the State Constitutions [ for example, Article I., Section 3. of the South Carolina Constitution ], indicates that legal status and therefore protection of constitutional rights, is granted to ’PERSONS’ in these provisions.  The issue of personhood for the ‘fetus’ as being the preeminently critical issue was specifically addressed by a US Supreme Court Justice during the October 11, 1972 Roe v. Wade Oral Reargument.
[ Go to these internet links to both a transcript and the actual audio of the October 11, 1972 Roe v. Wade Oral Reargument. ]

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THE 1973 ROE V. WADE OPINION REVEALS THAT ESTABLISHING PERSONHOOD FOR THE PREBORN AT FERTILIZATION, WITH NO ‘EXCEPTIONS’ , IS THE KEY TO ENDING CHILD-MURDER BY ‘ABORTION’.
[ However, Roe v. Wade itself is a fraud, denying preborn personhood, and making a ‘strawman’ argument with the 14th Amdt.]

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)  (Opinion published January 22, 1973)  Findlaw.com

“The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a “person” within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development.  If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant’s [ pro-abortion ] case, of course, collapses, [410 U.S. 113, 157] for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the AmendmentThe appellant [ pro-abortion side ] conceded as much on reargument. … ”
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THE KEY, CRITICAL, FIRST, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE IN ROE V. WADE (1973) WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE ‘FETUS’ ( PRE-BIRTH HUMAN BEING ), WOULD BE RECOGNIZED IN LAW AS A LEGAL ‘PERSON’:
[ Note:  American Constitutional Law even recognizes Corporations as legal ‘Persons’, but not preborn Human Beings !!! ]

Excerpt from transcript (edited) of Reargument ( October 11, 1972 ) of Roe v. Wade before the US Supreme Court:

US Supreme Court Justice:
“And the basic constitutional question, initially, is whether or not an unborn fetus is a person, isn’t it ?” 
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Mr. Robert Flowers (Assistant Attorney General, State of Texas):
“Yes, sir, and entitled to the constitutional protection.” 
[ p. 827 ]

US Supreme Court Justice:  “And that’s critical to this case, is it not?”  [ p. 828 ]

Mr. Robert Flowers (Assistant Attorney General, State of Texas):  “Yes, sir, it is. … (continued).”  [ p. 828 ]

(Video) SC Personhood Bill S.217 “Carried Over” by 18-5 vote in Senate Judiciary Committee Jan. 30, 2018; Next meeting Tues., Feb. 6

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Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
February 5, 2018

(Video) SC Personhood Bill S .217 “Carried Over” by 18-5 vote in Senate Judiciary Committee Jan. 30, 2018; Next meeting Tues., Feb. 6


Names of all 23 Senate Judiciary Committee members ( 14 R, 9 D ) may be viewed here .

Senators pictured above in January 30 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, Gressette Bldg, Room 105, L-R, starting with back row:

Senator Tom Young (R-Aiken)
Senator Katrina Shealy (R-Lexington)
Senator Kevin Johnson (D-Clarendon)
Senator Brad Hutto (D-Orangeburg)
Senate Staff person
Senator Luke Rankin, Chairman (R-Horry)
Senate Staff person
Senator Gerald Malloy (D-Darlington)
Senator Shane Massey (R-Edgefield)
Senator Ross Turner (R-Greenville)
Senator Marlon Kimpson (D-Charleston)
Senator Margie Bright Matthews (D-Colleton)

[ Missing from back row: Ronnie Sabb (D-Williamsburg), Senator Chip Campsen (R-Charleston) Note: both these were present for most of the meeting; the only absent Senator was Thomas McElveen (R-Sumter) ]

Senators pictured, L-R, in front row:

Senator Richard Cash (R-Anderson)
Senator Sandy Senn (R-Charleston)
Senator Mia McLeod (D-Richland)
Senator Mike Fanning (D-Chester)
Senator Mike Gambrell (R-Anderson)
Senator Wes Climer (R-York)
Senator Stephen Goldfinch (R-Georgetown)
Senator Rex Rice (R-Pickens)
Senator Scott Talley (R-Greenville)
Senator William Timmons (R-Greenville)

All 46 South Carolina Senators may be viewed here .  [ Note: Senator John Courson under indictment has been suspended ]

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Recent Action Jan 30 and Upcoming Meeting Feb 6:

– On January 30, the SC Personhood Bill S .217 was listed first on the Senate Judiciary Comm. Agenda and was discussed for just over 1 1/2 hours before the 18-5 vote to “Carry Over” the S .217 bill until the next meeting.

– The next Senate Judiciary Committee meeting is Tuesday, February 6, beginning at 11:00 am, and S .217 is again on the Agenda, but this time is not listed at the top.

Senate Meeting Schedule
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/meetings.php?chamber=S

Tuesday, February 6
11:00 am
— Gressette Room 105 — Judiciary Committee
Agenda Available
Live Broadcast
Live Broadcast – Audio Only

The February 6 meeting is again in the Senate Gressette Bldg, Rm 105 (seats approx. 100).
[ The Senate Gressette Bldg is located to immediate rear of the SC State House, on the southwest side. ]

Please come early (recommend 10am or earlier) and help pack the room with praying Christian Pro-Personhood supporters.

It is likely Planned Parenthood supporters will be coming as well, and it is important for the 23 Senate members [ 14 R, 9 D ] of the Judiciary Committee to see a strong Pro-Personhood presence  [ Note: Of the 14 Republican members of the Judiciary Committee, only 10 have signed on as co-sponsors of S.217Rice, Turner, Young, Timmons, Talley, Shealy, Goldfinch, Climer, Gambrell, Cash.  [ Note: There are also 10 other co-sponsors of S.217 as well, who are not on the Senate Judiciary Committee, for a total of 20 ( 19 R, 1 D ) S.217 co-sponsors in the SC Senate, which presently consists of 45 ( 27 R, 18 D ) sitting SC Senators. ]

Republican Senate Majority Leader, and Chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, Senator Massey has not signed on as a S.217 co-sponsor, but has stated he will vote for the bill when he has the opportunity.

Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Senator Rankin has not yet agreed to support S.217.

Senator Senn stated publicly in the January 30 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting:

     “I am a Republican, pro-life, and [ Roman ] Catholic.  I do not want to vote against a bill that encourages pro-life, but this bill is so far out of bounds as far as its constitutionality, I don’t think it can be retrieved,…”

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South Carolina Legislature archive video [ Begin video time 54:40 Senator Senn comments on her opposition to SC Personhood Bill S.217 ]

Senator Campsen has been a long-time opponent of Personhood legislation ( although when SC Personhood legislation was first introduced in February 1998, then-Representative Campsen was actually a co-sponsor !? ).

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Further Reporting on January 30 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting:

– The committee room ( Gressette Room 105, below ) was filled to its approx. 100-seat capacity.
(It was also reported a separate overflow room had approx. 70 in attendance.)

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(Video) Senate Judiciary Committee meeting Jan 30, 2018, SC Personhood Bill S.217:

South Carolina Legislature

Video Archives by meeting time
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php
Select Year:  2018

Tuesday, January 30, 2018  11:00 am
Senate Judiciary Committee — Judiciary Committee
 
Agenda

Gressette Senate Office Building, Room 105
Video – 1:50:43

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– Several Senators spoke on the SC Personhood Bill S .217 Jan 30, both supporters and opponents.

 
[ Selected approx. video times listed below facilitate viewing of selected comments of various Senators as identified; however, during some of the time periods listed below, more than only the identified Senator may have spoken. ]

– Selected comments by Supporters of the SC Personhood Bill S .217 included:

1) Senator Richard Cash (R-Anderson) – View video [ Video times: 9:25 – 17:55; and 1:29:30 – 1:31:50 ]

[ Founder and former executive director of Personhood South Carolina ]

2) Senator Rex Rice (R-Pickens) – View video [ Video times: 30:50 – 31:15; and 1:38:10 – 1:39:40 ]

3) Senator Stephen Goldfinch (R-Georgetown) – View video [ Video times: 32:30 – 33:40; and 38:40 – 39:25 ]

4) Senator William Timmons (R-Greenville) – View video [ Video time: 43:30 – 46:25 ]

[ Attorney, former Asst. Solicitor for 13th Circuit – good explanation of use of Personhood Act of SC as a vehicle to challenge Roe v Wade ]

5) Senator Wes Climer (R-York) – View video [ Video times: 1:00:00 – 1:02:00; and 1:13:40 – 1:14:15; and 1:27:30 – 1:28:00 ]

6) Senator Katrina Shealy (R-Lexington) – View video [ Video times: 1:24:50 – 1:27:30; and 1:13:40 – 1:14:15; and 1:28:00 – 1:29:30; and 1:37:30 – 1:37:35 ( Senator Shealy’s Motion to carry S .217 bill over ) ]

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– Selected comments by Opponents of the SC Personhood Bill S .217 included:

1) Senator Margie Bright Matthews (D-Colleton) – View video [ Video times: 2:20 – 8:10; and 33:45 – 38:35; and 1:02:00 – 1:03:00 ]

[ Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Luke Rankin’s (R-Horry) hand-picked pro-child-murder-by-“abortion” chairwoman of the 5-man Subcommittee which passed S .217 out of Subcommittee by a 3Y-2N vote last year, April 26, 2017.  During the Subcommittee meeting on April 26, 2017, Senator Bright Matthews (attorney) abused her power as Chair and skipped over at least two Pro-Personhood speakers on the sign-up list, including a Christian woman with 34 years experience as Director of the Care Pregnancy Center, who was prepared to speak on her experience dealing with clients regarding the DAMAGE DONE TO WOMEN BY “ABORTION”.  So this Pro-Personhood testimony was blocked from being heard in the April 26, 2017 Subcommittee Hearing by Senator Rankin’s pro-“abortion” chairwoman. ]

2) Senator Luke Rankin (R-Horry) – View video [ Video times: 8:10 – 10:00; and 31:15 – 32:30 and 57:10 – 59:15; and 1:10:00 – 1:11:00; and 1:34:00 – 1:37:30 ( includes Senator Rankin’s “I will take just a second to complain somewhat” comments, and ending with his comments about following the examples of Kansas and Missouri, whose statutes subjected their implementation to Supreme Court decisions ); and 1:37:35 – 1:39:40 ( includes 18-5 vote to carry over; incorrectly reported by Senator Rankin as 19-4 vote ) ]

[ In 2017, Senator Rankin waited over two months to even assign S .217 to a Judiciary Subcommittee, until March 22, 2017, after then-Senator (now SC Lt Gov) Kevin Bryant had introduced S .217 on the first day of the 2017 Legislative Session, January 10, 2017.  Read more details of Senator Luke Rankin’s delaying tactics, “slow-walking” S .217 through the entire 2017 Legislative Session here and here and here.  In 2018, the South Carolina Legislature convened on Tuesday, January 9, however the Senate Judiciary Committee was not called by the Chairman, Senator Luke Rankin (R-Horry), to meet on January 9, nor on January 16, nor on January 23 !  The January 30 meeting of Chairman Rankin’s Senate Judiciary Committee was the first meeting in 2018.  Under normal procedures, legislation should be sent from the SC Senate to the SC House by April 10, and the END of the regular 2018 Legislative Session of the SC Legislature is May 10.  Has Senator Rankin already begun successfully “slow-walking” S .217 in the 2018 Legislative Session to consume precious time needed for debate and passage ? ]

3) Senator Brad Hutto (D-Orangeburg) – View video [ Video times: 18:00 – 23:15; and 1:03:45 – 1:05:55 ]

[ Perhaps the most strident child-murder-by-“abortion” proponent in the SC Senate.  His angry speech directed at a Christian Pro-Personhood Senator was insulting personally and therefore violated the spirit of SC Senate Rule 52, “ Personal Attacks on Senators Not Permitted;…”. Nevertheless, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Luke Rankin took no action to correct this pro-“abortion” Democrat Senator from Orangeburg. Senator Hutto received his J.D. (Law) degree from JESUIT Georgetown University Law Center. ]

4) Senator Kevin Johnson (D-Clarendon) – View video [ Video times: 23:15 – 24:15; and 42:10 – 43:30 ]

5) Senator Gerald Malloy (D-Darlington) – View video [ Video times: 24:15 – 30:50; and 59:15 – 1:00:00; and 1:05:55 – 1:09:00; and 1:11:00 – 1:13:40; and 1:31:50 – 1:34:00; and 1:38:10 – 1:39:40 ]

6) Senator Mia McLeod (D-Richland) – View video [ Video time: 39:25 – 42:10 ]

7) Senator Ronnie Sabb (D-Williamsburg) – View video [ Video time: 46:40 – 54:35 ]

8) Senator Sandy Senn (R-Charleston) – View video [ Video time: 54:40 – 57:10 ]

    “I am a Republican, pro-life [ sic ], and [ Roman ] Catholic.  I do not want to vote against a bill that encourages pro-life, but this bill is so far out of bounds as far as its constitutionality, I don’t think it can be retrieved,…”

9) Senator Marlon Kimpson (D-Charleston) – View video [ Video time: 1:14:35 – 1:24:50 ]

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Establishment media errors in reporting on January 30, 2018 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting:

There was erroneous reporting in The State newspaper.  Note how The State newspaper article erroneously reported the FALSE impression that “Personhood” legislation had been passed by other States and already ruled unconstitutional.

The State ( Columbia, SC )
‘Bill to likely ban all abortions delayed in South Carolina’
Jan 30, 2018
http://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article197391249.html

Excerpt:

“The bill says life begins at conception, *** and at that moment an embryo has all the rights as any other citizen. **** Several senators, including Republicans, said similarly-worded legislation in other states has been found unconstitutional.*****

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*** No the bill does NOT say “life begins at conception” !!!  The word conception is never used in the bill. The bill says the RIGHT to life  (due process, equal protection) is vested at fertilization !!!

**** No, the bill does NOT say an embryo has ALL the rights of another citizen, the bill says (only) the RIGHT to LIFE is vested.  The State article is incorrect about vesture of ALL citizen rights at conception (fertilization). The Personhood bill S .217 as written vests only the right to life at fertilization, not the rights of liberty and property.

***** Missouri (effective 1988) and Kansas ( 2013) passed legislation which would recognize the rights of the unborn to be the same as “other persons”, but subjected their statutes, in the text of the statutes themselves, to the “decisional interpretations … by the United States Supreme Court”, and so child-murder-by-“abortion” continues in Missouri and Kansas to this day.  No State in the U.S.A. has yet passed a real, true Personhood Bill or Amendment.

Further errors or omissions in the article:

1) The 20 co-sponsors of S .217 are not all Republicans, there is one Democrat, so far – Senator Kent Williams.  There should be more, including Senator Darrell Jackson, a pastor, and Senator Glenn Reese, a present or former Baptist deacon.

2) The article fails to mention Gov McMaster, Lt Gov Bryant, and another candidate for SC Gov on 2018, Yancy McGill all spoke at the Personhood Day event Wednesday, January 24 at the SC State House.

3) Lastly, the article does not mention 2018 SC GOP candidate Catherine Templeton does NOT support the Personhood Bill S .217, because she supports “exceptions” to a ban on child-murder, i.e., her un-Biblical, immoral, and unconstitutional position, is to allow the continued murder of certain children in the womb based upon the circumstances of their conception.  By definition therefore, Catherine Templeton is NOT “pro-life”.  Even Webster’s and Black’s Law dictionaries define “Person” as “A human being.”

Personhood Report: In Law, No Exceptions to Human Personhood
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/01/30/personhood-report-in-law-no-exceptions-to-human-personhood/

Personhood Report: No Exceptions to Personhood
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2018/01/29/personhood-report-no-exceptions-to-personhood/