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[Video] March 14 – Near Super-Majority “Republican” [sic] SC House votes 88 Y – 22 N (Division, not Roll Call) to table (kill) Budget Amendment offered to stop FUNDING THE MURDER OF PREBORN CHILDREN CONCEIVED IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST with the South Carolina State “Health” Insurance Plan

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SC House Journal
March 14, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/hj22/20220314.htm
[ To find 88 Y – 22 N Division (not Roll Call) Vote, search: “88 to 22” ]
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March 14 – Near Super-Majority “Republican” [sic] SC House votes 88 Y – 22 N (Division, not Roll Call) to table (kill) Budget Amendment offered to stop FUNDING THE MURDER OF PREBORN CHILDREN CONCEIVED IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST with the South Carolina State “Health” Insurance Plan.

Fake “Pro-Life” [sic] SC House defeated Budget Amendment #6 offered to Part 1B, Section 108, the Public Employee Benefit Authority (PEBA), to stop taxpayer dollars from being used to kill certain** preborn children through the SC State “Health” Insurance Plan.

So March 14, 2022, by a vote of 88 Y – 22 N (Division, not Roll Call), the Near Super-Majority “Republican” [sic] SC House effectively voted to continue FUNDING THE MURDER OF PREBORN CHILDREN CONCEIVED IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST with the South Carolina State “Health” Insurance Plan.

 

** Note: This Amendment #6 would have only banned the funding of “abortions” in cases of rape and incest. It would not have banned funding of “abortions” in the so-called cases of the life of the mother. However it is never necessary to “abort” (i.e., intentionally kill) the preborn child to save the life of the mother. Premature delivery is not an “abortion”. It is never justified to intentionally take the life of an innocent person. That is Murder. God says, “Thou shalt not kill (murder).” Exodus 20:13, KJV. The preborn child in the womb is judicially innocent. See additional information on “Exceptions” and specifically the so-called “life of the mother” case, at the end of this post below***.
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South Carolina Legislature
Video Archives by meeting time
https://scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php
Monday, March 14, 2022  1:00 pm
House of Representatives
Begin 6:30:15

SC House Journal
March 14, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/hj22/20220314.htm
[ To find 88 Y – 22 N Division (not Roll Call) Vote, search: “88 to 22” ]

March 14 – SC House Tables (Kills) Magnuson Amendment #6 to Section 108, Part 1B, 88 Y – 22 N (Division, not Roll Call)
[ 72 Yea Votes: 33 “Republicans”, 39 Democrats; 37 Nay Votes: 37 Republicans ]
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Text of Budget Amendment #6 offered to Section 108, Part 1B as printed in SC House Journal, March 14, 2022,
introduced by Rep. Josiah Magnuson:

Rep. MAGNUSON proposed the following Amendment No. 6 (Doc Name h:\legwork\house\amend\h-wm\005\delete abortion exceptions.docx), which was tabled:
Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part IB, Section 108, PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT AUTHORITY, page 473, paragraph 108.4, line 11, by striking:/of rape, incest or/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend totals and titles to conform.

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South Carolina Legislature
Video Archives by meeting time
https://scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php
Monday, March 14, 2022  1:00 pm
House of Representatives

Rep. MAGNUSON explained the amendment.
(Begin video time 6:30:15)

“Remember, these are human beings. This is a life, this is a person, that is created in the image of God.”  Rep. Josiah Magnuson (video time 6:31:35)

Rep. SIMRILL spoke against the amendment.  [ Note: Rep. Simrill (R-York) is the present SC House “Republican” [sic] Majority Leader, but is not running for re-election in 2022 ]
(Begin video time 6:33:25)

SPEAKER IN CHAIR

Rep. SIMRILL continued speaking.

Rep. SIMRILL moved to table the amendment.

Rep. MAGNUSON demanded the yeas and nays, which were not ordered.

The amendment was then tabled by a division vote of 88 to 22.
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Rep. Magnuson informed the SC House members from the podium (video time 6:32:55) South Dakota had not paid for “abortion” in the cases of rape and incest, and had not lost Medicaid funding.

 

This is documented in the 2019 GAO Report below, reporting that South Dakota had not paid for Medicaid rape and incest “abortions” since 1994 (for 25 years); see page15:

US Government Accountability Office
MEDICAID
CMS Action Needed to Ensure Compliance with Abortion Coverage Requirements
GAO-19-159
January 2019
https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/696338.pdf

‘States Flout Abortion Coverage Requirements, Federal Investigators Say’
New York Times
February 17, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/politics/states-abortion-coverage-medicaid.html

‘South Dakota hasn’t provided required Medicaid coverage for some abortions for 25 years’
Argus Leader
February 20, 2019/Updated February 21, 2019
https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/20/report-south-dakota-violating-federal-medicaid-abortion-law/2928240002/
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*** “Exceptions” to Ban on “Abortions”:  NONE !!!

There are No “Exceptions” to a Ban on Murder.

No Exceptions
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/no-exceptions/

 

Pro-Life Without Exception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwazODlTOBk&feature=youtu.be
Is abortion helpful in cases of rape or incest? What about fetal deformity?
What about threats to the life or health of the mother? Hear the stories
of those who have actually been involved in these difficult circumstances.

 

Dr. Patrick Johnston, Director, Assn. of Pro-Life Physicians, Statement S.457 Senate Judiciary Subcomm. Hearing
March 13, 2014
[ Written statement of Dr. Patrick Johnston introduced during testimony by Dr. Henry Jordan before SC Senate Judiciary Subcommittee at public hearing on SC Personhood Bill S.457 on March 13, 2014 ]

 

Life of the Mother “Exception” by American Right to Life
http://americanrtl.org/life-of-the-mother-exception

 

“Dr. Patrick Johnston, Abortion and Healthcare”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uQn6Z0A7eg&feature=youtu.be
Dr. Patrick Johnston discusses why doctors might proscribe abortion in cases where the life or health of the mother is in danger.

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2019 SC Legislature Columbia Christians for Life Incrementalism

Republican-Super-Majority SC House adopted Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat’ Bill which bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected

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aka Christians for Life and Liberty ( CLL )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 16, 2019 / Revised May 17, 2019

 

April 24 Columbia, SC

Republican-Super-Majority SC House adopted Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat‘ Bill which bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected

Human Life begins at CONCEPTION NOT HEARTBEAT !!!

Note: The Republican-Super-Majority SC House passed H3020 Heartbeat Bill on Second Reading April 24 with Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment, and on Third Reading April 25, and sent bill to SC Senate, where H3020 was assigned to Medical Affairs Committe April 25.
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living unborn baby at eight weeks
http://clinicquotes.com/abortion-at-8-weeks-pictures/

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“Republicans” who voted against tabling Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment to incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat‘ Bill, which already bans NO ‘abortions’ before heartbeat detected:

Bailey, Ballentine, Bannister, Blackwell, Bradley, Chellis, Clary, Clemmons, Cogswell, Collins, W. Cox, Daning, Davis, Felder, Finlay, Hewitt, Hixon, Huggins, Hyde, Kimmons, Lowe, Mace, Martin, McCoy, McGinnis, D. C. Moss, Murphy, B. Newton, W. Newton, Sottile, Spires, Taylor, Wooten  [ 33 “Republicans” total ]

Note: SC House Representatives districts and contact information.

After the attempt to table the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment failed on a 38 – 62 vote, the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment was then adopted on a voice vote.  So of the 62 votes against tabling the Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment, 33 of those 62 were the “Republicans” listed above.  In other words, the
Mace rape and incest “exceptions” amendment would have failed without the support of Republicans.

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Mace rape and incest ‘exceptions’ amendment added to unjust incremental Child-Murder Regulation ‘ Heartbeat‘ Bill; unjust Mace amendment insures children conceived in cases of rape and incest can still be murdered even after heartbeat detected:

Note 1: In addition to being fundamentally flawed as an incremental bill regulating child-murder by allowing the murder of all children in the womb prior to a heartbeat being detected (approx. 6 weeks gestation), the ‘ Heartbeat‘ Bill ( H3020) as initially filed also already contained “exceptions” for performing an “abortion” (which this bill euphemistically includes among what it terms “a medical procedure” [ sic – intentional murder of a child in the womb is not “a medical procedure” !!! ] “to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.” [ Re: H3020 as pre-filed Dec 18, 2018 – Section 44-41-700. (A) and Section 44-41-710. (A) ]

However, it is never necessary to intentionally destroy the child in the womb.  See written Statement below prepared by Dr. Patrick Johnston, presented to a SC Senate Judiciary Subcommittee by Dr. Henry Jordan, on March 13, 2014:

Dr. Patrick Johnston, Director, Assn. of Pro-Life Physicians, Statement S.457 Senate Judiciary Subcomm. Hearing
March 13, 2014

Note 2:  The Mace amendment adding rape and incest exceptions to the ‘ Heartbeat‘ Bill ( H3020) was approved by the full SC House Judiciary Committee [ April 4, 2019 Report ], and later adopted by the full SC House on April 24:

SC House Journal – April 24, 2019
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess123_2019-2020/hj19/20190424.htm#p61
Excerpts [ edited, emphasis added ]

The Committee on Judiciary proposed the following Amendment No. 1 to H. 3020 ( Word version)
(COUNCIL\VR\3020C001.CC.VR19):
Amend the bill, as and if amended, SECTION 2, by striking Section 44-41-680 in its entirety and inserting:

/   Section 44-41-680.   (A)   Section 44-41-670 does not apply to a physician who performs or induces the abortion if the physician determines according to standard medical practice that a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance with that section or that the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest.

(B)   A physician who performs or induces an abortion on a pregnant woman based on an exception in subsection (A) shall make written notations in the pregnant woman’s medical records of the following:

(1)(a)   the physician’s belief that a medical emergency necessitating the abortion existed; and

(b)   the medical condition of the pregnant woman that assertedly prevented compliance with Section 44-41-670; or

(2)   the physician’s belief that the pregnancy resulted from rape of [ sic – or ] incest.

(C)   For at least seven years from the date the notations are made, the physician shall maintain in the physician’s own records a copy of the notations.   / amend the bill further, as and if amended, SECTION 2, by striking Section 44-41-710 in its entirety and inserting:

/   Section 44-41-710.   (A)   Section 44-41-700 does not apply to a physician who performs a medical procedure that, in reasonable medical judgment, is designed or intended to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman or is designed or intended to terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(B)(1)   A physician who performs a medical procedure as described in subsection (A) shall declare, in a written document, that the medical procedure is necessary, in reasonable medical judgment, to:

(a)   prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman; or

(b)   terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(2)   In the document, the physician shall:

(a)   specify the pregnant woman’s medical condition that the medical procedure is asserted to address and the medical rationale for the physician’s conclusion that the medical procedure is necessary to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman; or

(b)   specify the medical rational for the physician’s conclusion that the medical procedure is necessary to terminate a pregnancy that resulted from rape or incest.

(C)   A physician who performs a medical procedure as described in subsection (A) shall place the written document required by subsection (B) in the pregnant woman’s medical records. For at least seven years from the date the document is created, the physician shall maintain a copy of the document in the physician’s own records.   /

Renumber sections to conform.
Amend title to conform.

Rep. MACE explained the amendment.

Rep. MCCRAVY spoke against the amendment.
Rep. RIDGEWAY spoke against the amendment.

continued…

Rep. RIDGEWAY continued speaking.

Rep. MAGNUSON spoke against the amendment.
Rep. KING spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. KING spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RUTHERFORD spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RUTHERFORD spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. RIDGEWAY spoke against the amendment.
Rep. MACE spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. LONG spoke against the amendment.
Rep. MACK spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. THIGPEN spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. THIGPEN spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. R. WILLIAMS spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. R. WILLIAMS spoke in favor of the amendment.
Rep. CLEMMONS spoke in favor of the amendment.

continued…

Rep. MCCRAVY moved to table the amendment.

Rep. MACE demanded the yeas and nays which were taken, resulting as follows:

Yeas 38; Nays 62

Those who voted in the affirmative (38) are:
[ voting AGAINST ADDING MACE RAPE AND INCEST EXCEPTIONS AMENDMENT ]

Alexander, Allison, Bales, Bennett, Burns, Calhoon, Chumley, B. Cox, Crawford, Elliott, Forrest, Forrester, Gagnon, Gilliam, Hardee, Hayes, Hill, Hiott, Johnson, Long, Lucas, Magnuson, McCravy, Morgan, V. S. Moss, Pope, Ridgeway, Sandifer, Simrill, G. R. Smith, Stringer, Tallon, Thayer, Trantham, West, Whitmire, Willis, Yow

Total–38

Those who voted in the negative (62) are:
[ voting IN FAVOR OF ADDING MACE RAPE AND INCEST EXCEPTIONS AMENDMENT ]

Anderson, Atkinson, Bailey, Ballentine, Bamberg, Bannister, Blackwell, Bradley, Brawley, Chellis, Clary, Clemmons, Clyburn, Cobb-Hunter, Cogswell, Collins, W. Cox, Daning, Davis, Felder, Finlay, Garvin, Gilliard, Govan, Henderson-Myers, Henegan, Hewitt, Hixon, Hosey, Howard, Huggins, Hyde, Jefferson, Kimmons, King, Kirby, Lowe, Mace, Martin, McCoy, McDaniel, McGinnis, Moore, D. C. Moss, Murphy, B. Newton, W. Newton, Norrell, Ott, Parks, Pendarvis, Rivers, Robinson, Rutherford, Simmons, Sottile, Spires, Stavrinakis, Taylor, R. Williams, S. Williams, Wooten

Total–62

So, the House refused to table the amendment.

The question then recurred to the adoption of the amendment.

The amendment was then adopted.

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Additional reports:

PERSONHOOD ACT OF SOUTH CAROLINA
AND SCRIPTURAL BASIS OF HUMAN LAWS
Christians for Personhood newsletter
Steve Lefemine, Christian pro-life missionary
exec. dir., Christians for Personhood
December 31, 2018

ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION”
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2019/04/08/all-heartbeat-bills-have-a-huge-exception/
April 5, 2019

Personhood Report: In Law, No Exceptions to Human Personhood
November 30, 2018 / Edited December 4, 2018

Personhood Report: No Exceptions to Personhood
January 27, 2018

No Exceptions
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/no-exceptions/

Pro-Life Without Exception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=zwazODlTOBk
Is abortion helpful in cases of rape or incest? What about fetal deformity? What about threats to the life or health of the mother? Hear the stories of those who have actually been involved in these difficult circumstance.

Dr. Patrick Johnston, Director, Assn. of Pro-Life Physicians, Statement S.457 Senate Judiciary Subcomm. Hearing
March 13, 2014

Incrementalism Justice Personhood

ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION”

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Christians for Personhood (CP)
April 5, 2019

In NY Times article below, Georgia RTL supported Georgia’s recently passed incremental child-murder regulation Heartbeat Bill, until rape and incest exceptions were added. For heaven’s sake, by definition, ALL Heartbeat bills have a huge “EXCEPTION” – i.e., allowing the killing of ALL children in the womb who are less than six weeks old !!! Heartbeat bills do NOT “establish Justice” as required by the Preamble of the US Constitution (and therefore inherent in Oath of Office taken by legislators and governors); are contrary to Scripture; and are contrary to a principled, Biblically-sound position of supporting only Personhood, or other legislation which completely abolishes child-murder by “abortion”.
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‘Georgia Is Latest State to Pass Fetal Heartbeat Bill as Part of Growing Trend’

The New York Times
March 30, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/us/georgia-fetal-heartbeat-abortion-law.html
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Christians for Personhood comments (cont’d):

Georgia RTL is essentially founding affiliate of so-called “Personhood” Alliance:

National Personhood Alliance | Georgia Right to Life
http://www.grtl.org/?q=national-personhood-alliance

However there are leaders within the Romish/ecumenical “Personhood” Alliance who do NOT only support principled, Biblically-sound Personhood legislation.

In fact, a leading voice advocating passage of the Ohio incremental child-murder regulation Heartbeat bill is a president emeritus of the (so-called) Personhood Alliance: Molly Smith, president of the Ohio affiliate of the “Personhood” (sic) Alliance, called Cleveland Right to Life.

Leadership – Personhood Alliance
https://personhood.org/about-us/leadership

The “Personhood” Alliance leaders are NOT all ONLY supporting principled, Biblically-sound Personhood legislation. That is NOT a position faithful to the Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Exodus 20:13
Matthew 19:18
Amos 5:15
Exodus 10:24-26
KJV
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Christians for Personhood (CP)
ChristiansforPersonhood.com

2018 SC Legislature Personhood Report

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4, 2018 – Report #2:

Published by:

Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 8, 2018

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4, 2018 – Report #2:
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[ Report sent previously by text ]

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4 – Report #2:

Personhood Bill S217 vs Hutto “Hyde-Amdt”-type fake “pro-life” replacement amdt to H3548 vs SCCL’s euthanasia Dismemberment Bill H3548

/// The Hutto “Hyde-Amdt”-type fake “pro-life” replacement amdt language which supplanted the euthanasia Dismemberment Bill language was adopted on a 24 Y – 1 N vote about 9:45pm Wed night, May 2. About one hour later before adjourning for the night, the Senate gave Second Reading (28 Y – 10 N) to H3548, which was now a much different bill, although not a Personhood or true “pro-life” bill. This Hutto/Hyde fake “pro-life” bill did NOT establish Personhood, and had several child-murder “exceptions” for rape, incest, life and serious health risk of mother.

/// The two Roll Call votes above  are listed in Senate Journal for 5/2/2018
– https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess122_2017-2018/sj18/20180502.htm

/// Earlier same day, Wed, May 2 (beginning after 3:30pm and continuing into evening), Senator Cash cont’d to offer several Amdt’s (he began with his first major Amdt Tues evening, May 1) to H3548 Dismemberment Bill, which was then still in its pro-euthanasia form; “Redefining How to Kill Babies”, allowing dismemberment of unborn children after  first euthanizing  (murdering) them inside the womb, by sticking a long needle into baby’s heart with an injection, to stop the heart, intentionally causing death. This sick legislation advocated by SC Citizens for “Life” is NOT Pro-Life !!!

/// Amdt No. 12 offered by Senator Cash exposed the pro-euthanasia aspect of H3548 and attempted to close the “Euthanasia first (Kill the Baby first); then Dismember the Baby” loophole, by adding language to also proscribe “… after first killing a living unborn child, knowingly to dismember an unborn child and extract him one piece at a time from the uterus…”

/// None of the several Amdt’s proposed by Senator Cash to H3548 on Wed, May 2 were adopted; text of each one may be seen in Senate Journal ///

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2018 SC Legislature Personhood Report

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4, 2018 – Report #1:

Published by:

Christians for Personhood ( CP )
Columbia, South Carolina
May 7, 2018

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4, 2018 – Report #1:
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[ Report sent initially by text Fri, May 4, 2018 ]

SC Senate ‘Abortion’ Bills battle, May 1 – 4 – Report #1:

Personhood Bill S217 vs Hutto “Hyde-Amdt”-type fake “pro-life” replacement amdt to H3548 vs SCCL’s euthanasia Dismemberment Bill H3548.

/// There is far too much to cover in one text all that occurred between about 5:30pm Tues May 1 when debate started on Dismemberment Bill H3548 (Special Order), and sometime before 1am this morning Fri May 4 when Republican super-majority Senate voted to kill / Recommit back to Med Aff Comm, the Hutto “Hyde-Amdt”-type fake “pro-life” replacement amdt language which had supplanted the euthanasia Dismemberment Bill language, making H3548 now a much different bill, though not a Personhood / true “pro-life” bill either.

/// This Hutto / Hyde amended replacement version of H3548 did NOT establish Personhood, and had several child-murder “exceptions” for rape, incest, life and serious health risk of mother.

/// The Dem’s began their filibuster about 2:20pm Thurs May 3, and four cloture votes were taken over the next 10 hours or so, with these results (lesser of 26 votes or 3/5 of those present and voting needed for cloture): Cloture #1:  23 Y – 22 N; Cloture #2: 24 Y – 21 N; Cloture #3: 24 Y – 21 N; Cloture #4: 25 Y – 20 N.

/// So Cloture vote #4 was just ONE vote short of the required 26. And in Cloture vote #4, RINO’s Leatherman (Florence) and Rankin (Horry) again joined the 18 Dem’s to block cloture.

/// After Cloture vote #4 (25 Y – 20 N) failed by just ONE vote from getting the needed 26 votes because RINO Senate President Pro Tem / Finance Comm Chair Leatherman and RINO Senate Judiciary Comm Chair Rankin both voted NO to cloture, then Hutto moved to kill / Recommit H3548 back to Med Aff Comm, which passed, 24 Y – 21 N.  Joining the 18 Dem’s were: Campsen (Charleston), Gregory (Lancaster), Leatherman (Florence), Massey (Edgefield), Rankin (Horry), and Shealy (Lexington)

/// More to come…

/// Senate Journal (5/3/18) – http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess122_2017-2018/sj18/20180503.htm