Will “Republican” Senator Massey vote for Senator Cash’s H5399 Conference Committee proposal ? If so, will the SC Senate have just the 24 cloture votes [ i.e., now not 26 ] needed to stop a filibuster on a Conference Report ?

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Will “Republican” Senator Shane Massey vote for Senator Richard Cash‘s H5399 Conference Committee proposal ?
If so, will the SC Senate have just the 24 cloture votes [ i.e., now not 26 ] needed to stop a filibuster on a Conference Report ?

H5399 House-Senate Conference Committee meets again November 9; the 2022 Legislative Session ends November 13

Senator Massey almost immediately after being elected chairman of the Conference Committee (11/1/22) stated:

“It is clear to me that the Senate does not have the votes for a ban earlier than six weeks.”
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SIX (6) “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS DID NOT VOTE FOR CLOTURE ON SEPTEMBER 8: Davis (BEAUFORT), Gustafson (KERSHAW), Hembree (HORRY), Rankin (HORRY), Senn (Charleston), Shealy (LEXINGTON)

These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke Rankin who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day

SC Senate Journal September 8, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/sj22/20220908.htm

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*** THESE TWELVE (12) “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS PRESENT DID NOT VOTE TO RECEDE FROM SENATE VERSION ON OCTOBER 18:
Bennett (DORCHESTER), Campsen (CHARLESTON), Cromer (NEWBERRY), Davis (BEAUFORT), Gustafson (KERSHAW), Hembree (HORRY), M. Johnson (YORK), Massey (EDGEFIELD), Rankin (HORRY), Senn (Charleston), Shealy (LEXINGTON), Young (AIKEN)

SC Senate in Effect Refuses to Even Shut Down Any “Abortion” Centers in South Carolina, by a vote of 17 Y to 26 N (3 Not Voting)

SC Senate Journal October 18, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/sj22/20221018.htm

*** THESE 12 “REPUBLICAN” SENATORS ARE ALREADY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERPETUATION OF MASS GENOCIDE BY “ABORTION” IN SOUTH CAROLINA’S CHILD-EXTERMINATION CENTERS.
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Note: Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish legal recognition of Personhood for preborn children at fertilization, and therefore neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and therefore neither version establishes Justice. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399. At this juncture in the legislative process, Free Conference powers would have to be granted to the Conference Committee by a super-majority of each chamber to authorize striking the current language and amending H5399 with the language of Personhood Bills H5401 / S1335.
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WLTX – News19
South Carolina abortion committee presents two compromise proposals
Nov 1, 2022
“It’s clear to me the Senate doesn’t have the votes to pass a ban earlier than six weeks,” [Senator] Massey said.
“The question is do we want to pass something. If we want to pass something it gonna have to be after six weeks.” [emphasis added]

Post and Courier
SC legislators remain at impasse over abortion ban days before proposal expires
Nov 1, 2022
‘Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey, R-Edgefield, reiterated what he’s said since the Senate’s floor debate in September: There are not enough votes in his chamber to ban abortions earlier than six weeks.’  [emphasis added]

WIS – News10
SC GOP lawmakers remain locked in stalemate over tighter abortion restrictions
Nov 1, 2022
‘Two Republicans, Rep. John McCravy of Greenwood County and Sen. Richard Cash of Anderson County, proposed bills to ban abortion from conception, using the House version as their foundations but including exceptions and some elements from the less-restrictive Senate bill.’

‘But Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey reiterated several times during Tuesday’s meeting that not enough Republicans will vote for that more restrictive bill to pass it in the Senate.’  [emphasis added]

‘The committee plans to meet again on Nov. 9, the morning after Election Day, to give working out on a compromise another shot.’

‘But even if they do reach an agreement, that essentially leaves them with the rest of Wednesday and Thursday, before the Veterans Day holiday on Friday and the deadline of Sunday, to get it approved by majority votes in both chambers of the General Assembly.’

‘If they do not beat that deadline, lawmakers would have to wait until the new legislative session begins in January to reintroduce abortion legislation.’
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November 1, 2022 – Day 130 after Dobbs Decision:

Conference Committee for H5399
Gressette Building, State House Grounds
Columbia, SC

Archived Video
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php?key=12548&part=1
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Three take-aways from Conference Committee meeting Tuesday, November 1:

1) Senator Massey (“R” – Edgefield) repeatedly stated how certain he is the Senate does not have the votes to pass an “abortion” ban earlier than at six weeks (even though a simple majority of 24 Senators (out of 46) did vote for Massey’s cloture motion at 5:18pm on September 8 to stop a filibuster against a Senate version that did just that).

These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke Rankin who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day

(Massey claimed during this November 1 meeting there were 24 votes on September 8 only because some Senators knew there would not be the 26 votes needed for cloture to succeed !).

2) Representative McCravy (R – Greenwood) offered a proposal for the Conference Committee to consider that would ban “abortions” after a pregnancy is diagnosed (not at conception), and included all the exceptions, and repeals current SC Code Section 44-41-20, which the SC Supreme Court August 17, 2022 Order identified as the codification of Roe v Wade still present in SC Law.

3) Senator Cash (R – Anderson) offered a proposal for the Conference Committee to consider that would ban “abortions” after a pregnancy is diagnosed (not at conception), and included all exceptions EXCEPT for the so-called fatal fetal “anomaly” exception, and repeals current SC Code Section 44-41-20, which the SC Supreme Court August 17, 2022 Order identified as the codification of Roe v Wade still present in SC Law.
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There are also some other differences between the McCravy and Cash proposals; the McCravy proposal essentially including what is allowed under House Rules for a Conference Committee Report without Free Conference powers; and the Cash proposal
essentially including what is allowed under Senate Rules for a Conference Committee Report without Free Conference powers. However, there are differences between the House and Senate interpretations regarding what is allowed in a Conference Committee Report. (Free Conference powers, if granted by a super-majority of each chamber, allows the Conference Committee to have greater liberty in what they can propose as a compromise.)
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Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish Justice. Without the legal recognition of Personhood for preborn children at fertilization, neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and are therefore unjust pieces of legislation. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399.

 

“Without Virtue There Can Be No Liberty” – Founder* Benjamin Rush:
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2022/10/24/without-virtue-there-can-be-no-liberty-founder-benjamin-rush/

https://abortionno.org/abortion-photos/

 

God says,
“THOU SHALT NOT KILL (MURDER).”
Exodus 20:13, KJV

ChristiansforPersonhood.com

“Republican” Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey reported as saying the House version of H5399 “likely endangers” the state’s current abortion restrictions and he therefore “cannot support that.” What did he mean ? (The State, October 16, 2022)

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“Republican” Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey reported as saying the House version of H5399 “likely endangers” the state’s current abortion restrictions and he therefore “cannot support that.” What did he mean ? (The State, October 16, 2022)

     
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Note: Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish legal recognition of Personhood for preborn children at fertilization, and therefore neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and therefore neither version establishes Justice. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399.
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Shane Massey (EDGEFIELD)

What is Senator Massey referring to that is either included in, or omitted from, the House version of H5399 that allegedly “likely endangers” the state’s current incremental “abortion” restrictions, causing him to be reported as saying he cannot support that aspect of the House version of H5399 ?

Is it the fact the House version of H5399 does not repeal Section 44-41-20 of the current SC Code of Laws, which the SC Supreme Court described in its August 17, 2022 Order enjoining the SC Heartbeat Law as, the “codification of Roe ?
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As for Senator Massey’s reported criticism that ‘the House version “likely endangers” the state’s current abortion restrictions’; that could be fixed during the deliberations of the current H5399 House-Senate Conference Committee, of which Senator Massey is chairman as the senior Senator, by repealing Section 44-41-20 of the 1976 Code and amending three other sections affected by that repeal (as is included in the version of H5399 passed by the Senate on September 8).

         

Was Senator Massey’s reason for not supporting the House version on October 18 a smokescreen ? The failure so far of the SC Legislature to fix what the SC State Supreme Court identified as a legitimate problem over two months ago (i.e., Section 44-41-20 still being in the SC Code of Laws) in the very first paragraph of its August 17, 2022 Order could have been promptly remedied by passing separate, stand-alone legislation with the cooperation of the SC House and SC Senate. Or does Senator Massey also have other additional reasons for not supporting the House version of H5399 ? Did Senator Massey express other objections to the media that were not reported in the article in The State, October 16, 2022 ?

On October 18, 2022, Senator Massey did in fact vote against the Motion to Recede from the Senate version of H5399 (which would have in effect passed the House version of H5399):

‘SC Senate in Effect Refuses to Even Shut Down Any “Abortion” Centers in South Carolina, by a vote of 17 Y to 26 N (3 Not Voting)
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2022/10/19/sc-senate-in-effect-refuses-to-shut-down-any-abortion-centers-in-south-carolina-by-a-vote-of-17-y-to-26-n-3-not-voting/

The failure so far of the SC Legislature to fix what the SC State Supreme Court identified as a problem over two months ago in the very first paragraph of its August 17, 2022 Order could be remedied when the H5399 House-Senate Conference Committee meets Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 2pm in Room 105 of the Gressette Building, if at least two Senators and at least two Representatives on the six-man* Conference Committee choose to do so. [ * Senators: Massey, Cash, Matthews; Representatives: Pope, McCravy, Wetmore ]

South Carolina Judicial Branch
The Supreme Court of South Carolina
Order 2022-08-17-01
https://www.sccourts.org/courtOrders/displayOrder.cfm?orderNo=2022-08-17-01

“In 1973, the United States Supreme Court recognized in the Constitution a woman’s right to an abortion as a matter of privacy. See Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 153-54 (1973), overruled by Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Org., 142 S. Ct. 2228 (2022). The South Carolina legislature responded in 1974 by essentially codifying the Roe framework. See Act No. 1215, 1974 S.C. Acts 2837 (codified as amended in scattered sections of S.C Code Ann. §§ 44-41-10 to -80) (2018)).1  In 2021, the Fetal Heartbeat and Protection from Abortion Act (the Act) was enacted.  See S.C. Code Ann. §§ 44-41-610 to -740 (Supp. 2021).  Section 44 41 710 of the Act provides that its enactment “must not be construed to repeal, by implication or otherwise, Section 44-41-20 [(the codification of Roe)] or any otherwise applicable provision of South Carolina law regulating or restricting abortion.” It necessarily follows that the codification of Roe in section 44-41-20 remains part of the public policy of this state, notwithstanding the recent Act.  This legislative history, combined with the result in Dobbs, brings us to the current dispute in the Court’s original jurisdiction.” [ Emphasis added ]
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Note: This problem highlights the continued inclusion of the Roe trimester framework in the SC Code of Laws [Section 44-41-20], and is yet another example of the bad fruit of incremental “abortion” regulation laws which have PERPETUATED “abortion” in South Carolina for over 25 years.
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For the record, why was this problem of the ongoing “codification of Roe” in the SC Code of Laws (Section 44-41-20. Legal Abortions.), as described in the August 17, 2022 Order of the SC State Supreme Court, not remedied earlier than only in the very last (Amendment 5399R038) watered-down, revised six-week Heartbeat Bill version of H5399 passed by the Senate on Third Reading on September 8, 2022 ?

Why was it not remedied in the previous version (Amendment 5399R030) offered by Senator Massey on September 8, which was filibustered by Senator Tom Davis (BEAUFORT) and which fell short by two votes of receiving sufficient votes for Senator Massey’s cloture motion to succeed to stop the filibuster ? (SC Senate Journal, September 8, 2022)

‘These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke Rankin who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day’ http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2022/10/27/these-are-the-faces-of-the-five-5-republican-senators-whose-votes-september-8-perpetuated-mass-genocide-by-abortion-in-south-carolinas-death-camps-and-of-senator-luke-rankin-who-suddenly/ 

Why was it not remedied previously in the SC Senate by Amendment on either September 7 or September 8 ? (SC Senate Journals; September 8, 2022 and September 8, 2022)

Why was it not remedied in the Senate Medical Affairs Committee on September 6 ?

Why did the SC House of Representatives not remedy this problem prior to either August 30 (Second Reading) or August 31 (Third Reading) ?

The SC State Supreme Court identified the problem in the very first paragraph of its August 17, 2022 Order.
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Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish Justice. Without the legal recognition of Personhood for preborn children at fertilization, neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and are therefore unjust pieces of legislation. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399.

 

God says,
“THOU SHALT NOT KILL (MURDER).”
Exodus 20:13, KJV

ChristiansforPersonhood.com

These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke Rankin who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day

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Published October 26, 2022; Revised October 27, 2022

Ephesians 5:11-13, KJV
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

 

These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps; and of Senator Luke Rankin who suddenly departed (fled?) the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day

 

Note: Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish legal recognition of personhood for preborn children at fertilization, and therefore neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and therefore neither version establishes Justice. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399.

That said, on September 8, 2022, the SC Senate came within two (2) votes of passing a version, which while not establishing Justice, would have banned approx. 97% of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC, likely shutting down the Planned Parenthood “abortion” centers in Columbia and Charleston, and stopping most such elective “abortions”-on-demand at the Greenville “abortion” center. [ Note: The five (5) “Republicans” who voted against this version (see below) did not do so because the legislation was unjust and not “pro-life” enough for them, but because it was not pro-“abortion” enough for them. ] 

Being “Pro-Life” is agreeing with God regarding the Sanctity of the Human Life which HE has created.
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These are the FACES of the Five (5) “Republican” Senators whose votes September 8 PERPETUATED Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps:

 

Tom Davis (BEAUFORT)


Penry Gustafson (KERSHAW)


Greg Hembree (HORRY)


Sandy Senn (CHARLESTON)


Katrina Shealy
(LEXINGTON)

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On September 8, “Republican” Senate Majority Leader Senator Shane Massey (EDGEFIELD) proposed a version of H5399 which was substantively very similar to the SC House version, with the primary difference being an additional “exception” to banning the murder of children in the womb. This H5399 Senate version** would have banned approximately 97% (using State of Florida 2020 statistics) of the surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC. An attempt to table this version failed on a 20 Y to 24 N vote***. Since the tabling motion failed, pro-“abortion” Senator Tom Davis (BEAUFORT) began to filibuster Senator Massey’s proposal.

** This filibuster initiated by pro-“abortion” Senator Tom Davis (BEAUFORT) was against a version of H5399 which would have banned committing an “abortion” on “a woman known to be pregnant”, but with all the exceptions of so-called life/serious health of the mother, rape/incest, and fatal fetal “anomaly” [sic]; it was similar to the SC House version, which did not have a fatal fetal “anomaly” [sic] exception, and which would ban approximately 98% (using State of Florida 2020 statistics) of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC.

[ Note: There are no “exceptions” to God’s Commandment to all men not to commit murder. Exodus 20:13, KJV ]

After only about 20 minutes of Senator Davis’ “filibuster”, Senator Massey made a motion at 5:18 pm calling for a cloture vote to stop the threatened filibuster. The SC Senate came within two votes of doing so. The cloture vote*** was 24 Y to 20 N to end the filibuster, but under Senate Rules, 26 votes were needed. There are 30 “Republicans” in the SC Senate. The five pro-“abortion” “Republicans” who voted against cloture on the H5399 Senate version which would have banned 97% of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC were: Senators Tom Davis (BEAUFORT), Penry Gustafson (KERSHAW), Greg Hembree (HORRY), Sandy Senn (CHARLESTON), and Katrina Shealy (LEXINGTON). [ Note: The five (5) “Republicans” who voted against this version (see below) did not do so because the legislation was unjust and not “pro-life” enough for them, but because it was not pro-“abortion” enough for them. ] The sixth “Republican” who failed to vote for cloture was Senator Luke Rankin (HORRY) who departed (fled?) the Senate chamber about 25 minutes before the cloture vote on “Leave” *** (!?). Fifteen (15) pro-“abortion” Democrats also voted against cloture in the 24 Y to 20 N vote.

So this Senate version which would have banned approximately 97% (using State of Florida 2020 statistics) of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC, was not adopted because of the threatened filibuster and failed cloture vote.

*** SC Senate Journal – September 8, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/sj22/20220908.htm

 

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It was after the failure of this cloture vote that the Senate Bill was then amended, and the Senate then passed its final watered-down, revised six-week Heartbeat Bill version of H5399, which would ban approximately 52% (using 2021 SC DHEC statistics) of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in South Carolina, keeping open South Carolina’s Mass Genocide by “Abortion” Death Camps.

It should be noted that there were still two “Republican” Senators who did not even vote for the final watered-down, revised six-week Heartbeat Bill version of H5399 on September 8, which was Third Reading and passage of H5399 by the Senate on a 27 Y to 16 N vote. “Republican” Pro-“abortion” Senators Sandy Senn (CHARLESTON) and Katrina Shealy (LEXINGTON) each voted against even the watered-down, revised six-week Heartbeat Bill version of H5399 on Third Reading, which also includes all the “exceptions” of so-called life/serious health of the mother, rape/incest, and fatal fetal “anomaly” [sic][ Note: These two (2) “Republicans” who voted against even this version of H5399 on Third Reading did not do so because the legislation was unjust and not “pro-life” enough for them, but because it was not pro-“abortion” enough for them. ]

*** SC Senate Journal – September 8, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/sj22/20220908.htm

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This is the FACE of the “Republican” Senator whose sudden departure (flight?) September 8 from the Senate Chamber on “Leave” before the critical vote that day helped PERPETUATE Mass Genocide by “Abortion” in South Carolina’s Death Camps:

Luke Rankin (HORRY)

As stated above, “Republican” Senator Luke Rankin (HORRY) literally departed (fled?) the Senate chamber September 8 on “Leave” *** (!?) less than 25 minutes before the cloture vote on H5399. He was absent and did not cast a vote.

*** SC Senate Journal – September 8, 2022
https://scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/sj22/20220908.htm

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So if any two of the six “Republicans” who either voted against cloture (Senators Tom Davis (BEAUFORT), Penry Gustafson (KERSHAW), Greg Hembree (HORRY), Sandy Senn (CHARLESTON), and Katrina Shealy (LEXINGTON), or in the case of Senator Luke Rankin (HORRY) who was absent from the Senate chamber entirely, had voted for cloture, a Senate version of H5399 would have passed, which, while not establishing Justice, would have banned approx. 97% of surgical and RU486 “abortions” in SC, likely shutting down the Planned Parenthood “abortion” centers in Columbia and Charleston, and stopping most such elective “abortions”-on-demand at the Greenville “abortion” center.

Instead, as of October 27, 2022, it is 125 Days after the Dobbs decision and overturn of Roe v. Wade, and South Carolina is STILL killing her children in this State’s Mass Genocide by “Abortion” Death Camps.

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Without Virtue There Can Be No Liberty” – Founder* Benjamin Rush:
https://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2022/10/24/without-virtue-there-can-be-no-liberty-founder-benjamin-rush/

 

Neither the SC House nor the SC Senate versions of H5399 establish Justice. Without the legal recognition of personhood for preborn children at fertilization, neither version provides for equal protection of the laws, and therefore both are unjust pieces of legislation. The just course of action for the SC House and SC Senate to take is to pass the Personhood Act of SC (H5401 / S1335), not H5399.

 

God says,

“Thou shalt not kill (murder).”

Exodus 20:13, KJV

 

“Abortion” is Murder.  [ https://abortionno.org/abortion-photos/ ]

 

Jesus Christ is Lord,

Steve Lefemine
Christians for Personhood

“Without Virtue There Can Be No Liberty” – Founder* Benjamin Rush:

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Christians for Life and Liberty

“Without Virtue There Can Be No Liberty” – Founder* Benjamin Rush:
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Founder* Benjamin Rush:

“… without virtue there can be no liberty”

*A signer of the Declaration of Independence
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/159839-the-only-foundation-for-a-useful-education-in-a-republic
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To be clear, those who advocate and insist on the “legalization” [sic] of child-murder in the womb in any measure, undermine the morals and virtue, and ultimately therefore the liberty of our State.   Steve Lefemine

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QUOTES ON LIBERTY AND VIRTUE

Compiled and Edited by
J. David Gowdy, President
The Washington, Jefferson & Madison Institute


Excerpts:

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness — these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”

George Washington

 

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”

Benjamin Franklin

 

“Laws without morals are in vain.”

Benjamin Franklin (Motto of the University of Pennsylvania)

 

“. . . Virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone that renders us invincible. These are the tactics we should study. If we lose these, we are conquered, fallen indeed . . . so long as our manners and principles remain sound, there is no danger.”

Patrick Henry

 

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

John Adams

 

“Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics.”

John Adams

 

“Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”

John Adams

 

“[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man.”

Samuel Adams

 

“[M]en will be free no longer then while they remain virtuous.”

Samuel Adams

 

“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.”

Samuel Adams

 

“A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy…. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader…. If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security.”

Samuel Adams

 

“No people can be great who have ceased to be virtuous.”

Samuel Johnson

 

“In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. … It is alleged by men of loose principles, or defective views of the subject, that religion and morality are not necessary or important qualifications for political stations. But the scriptures teach a different doctrine. They direct that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, men of truth, hating covetousness. It is to the neglect of this rule that we must ascribe the multiplied frauds, breaches of trust, speculations and embezzlements of public property which astonish even ourselves; which tarnish the character of our country and which disgrace our government. When a citizen gives his vote to a man of known immorality, he abuses his civic responsibility; he not only sacrifices his own responsibility; he sacrifices not only his own interest, but that of his neighbor; he betrays the interest of his country.”

Noah Webster

 

“…if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded.”

Noah Webster

 

“… the manners of the people in general are of the utmost moment to the stability of any civil society. When the body of a people are altogether corrupt in their manners, the government is ripe for dissolution.”

John Witherspoon

 

“So true is this, that civil liberty cannot be long preserved without virtue.”

John Witherspoon

 

“… but a republic once equally poised, must either preserve its virtue or lose its liberty, and by some tumultuous revolution, either return to its first principles, or assume a more unhappy form.”

John Witherspoon

 

“The only foundation for… a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.”

Benjamin Rush

 

“Lastly, our ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”

Daniel Webster

 

“[I]f we and our posterity reject religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us, that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”

Daniel Webster

 

“Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”

Horace Greely

 

“Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.”

Edmund Burke

 

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their appetites; in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsel of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

Edmund Burke

 

“[T]he very best forms of government are vain without public virtue . . . .”

William A. Cocke

 

“When was public virtue to be found when private was not?”

William Cowper

 

“The laws by which the Divine Ruler of the universe has decreed an indissoluble connection between public happiness and private virtue, whatever apparent exceptions may delude our short-sighted judgments, never fail to vindicate their supremacy and immutability.”

William Cabell Rives

 

“Unless virtue guide us our choice must be wrong.”

William Penn

 

“If men be good, government cannot be bad.”

William Penn

 

“Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.”

Joseph Story

 

“The life of the nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful and virtuous.”

Frederick Douglas

 

“[R]eligion, morality and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.”

Northwest Ordinance of 1787

 

“I consider the domestic virtue of the Americans as the principle source of all their other qualities. It acts as a promoter of industry, as a stimulus to enterprise and as the most powerful restraint of public vice. . . . No government could be established on the same principle as that of the United States with a different code of morals.”

Francis Grund

 

“The American Constitution is remarkable for its simplicity; but it can only suffice a people habitually correct in their actions, and would be utterly inadequate to the wants of a different nation. Change the domestic habits of the Americans, their religious devotion, and their high respect for morality, and it will not be necessary to change a single letter in the Constitution in order to vary the whole form of their government.”

Francis Grund

 

“History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. There has been either a spiritual awakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster.”

Douglas MacArthur

 

“[Liberty] considers religion as the safeguard of morality, and morality as the best security of law and the surest pledge of the duration of freedom.”

Alexis de Tocqueville

 

“I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her comodious harbors and her ample rivers, and it was not there; in her fertile fields and boundless prairies; and it was not there; in her rich mines and her vast commerce, and it was not there. Not until I visited the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

[ Attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville, but not verified ]

 

“To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.”

Theodore Roosevelt

 

“No government at any level, or at any price, can afford, on the crime side, the police necessary to assure our safety unless the overwhelming majority of us are guided by an inner, personal code of morality. And you will not get that inner, personal code of morality unless children are brought up in a family — a family that gives them the affection they seek, that makes them feel they belong, that guides them to the future, and that will build continuity in future generations. . . . the greatest inequality today is not inequality of wealth or income. It is the inequality between the child brought up in a loving, supportive family and one who has been denied that birthright.”

Lady Margaret Thatcher

 

“The ultimate success of this government and the stability of its institutions, its progress in all that can make a nation honored, depend upon its adherence to the principles of truth and righteousness.”

John Lord

 

“Righteousness exalteth a nation.”

Proverbs 14:34 [ KJV ]

 

http://www.liberty1.org/virtue.htm
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To be clear, those who advocate and insist on the “legalization” [sic] of child-murder in the womb in any measure, undermine the morals and virtue, and ultimately therefore the liberty of our State.   Steve Lefemine

https://abortionno.org/abortion-photos/

10 Week Abortion

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God’s righteous judgment is upon such a people which is so wicked as to commit child-sacrifice and “shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters”. At God’s Hand, such a people is turned over to tyranny, such that they that hate them rule over them:

37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils, 2 Kgs. 17.17
38 and shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters,
whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood. Num. 35.33
39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.
40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.
41 And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them.
42 Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand.
43 Many times did he deliver them; but they provoked him with their counsel, and were brought low for their iniquity.
44 Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry:

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God says,
“Thou shalt not kill (murder).”
Exodus 20:13, KJV

 

Christians for Life and Liberty
Columbia, SC

Re: SC Supreme Court Hearing on Heartbeat Law – Oct 19, 2022; Heartbeat Bill vs. Personhood: Planned Parenthood attorney points out SB1 (2021 Heartbeat Bill) “does not treat a six-week embryo as another person.”

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Columbia, SC
Oct 19, 2022 / Revised Oct 20, 2022 / Revised Oct 21, 2022

Re: SC Supreme Court Hearing on Heartbeat Law – Oct 19, 2022; Heartbeat Bill vs. Personhood: Planned Parenthood attorney points out SB1 (2021 Heartbeat Bill) “does not treat a six-week embryo as another person.”

Planned Parenthood attorney points out SB1 (2021 Heartbeat Bill) “does not treat a six-week embryo as another person. If it did of course, you wouldn’t have a rape exception. After birth a woman cannot kill her child because she had been raped. So SB1 itself distinguishes between a six-week embryo and a person”, near the end of the SC Supreme Court Hearing on whether the incremental six-week Heartbeat Law violates the SC Constitution Privacy Right in Article I, Section 10.  

( Begin at 2:46:00 in video of Oct 19, 2022 SC Supreme Court Hearing – https://youtu.be/Jv-6aqO2SnY )

Even the proponents of “abortion” understand if preborn human beings are recognized as legal “persons”, they cannot be killed !  The right to life of “persons” is constitutionally protected.

KEY LEGAL POINT: PERSONHOOD AND THE SC CONSTITUTION RIGHT TO LIFE IN ARTICLE I, SECTION 3. TRUMPS PRIVACY.
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‘South Carolina Supreme Court takes up state’s abortion ban’
ABC News
Oct 19, 2022
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/south-carolina-supreme-court-takes-states-abortion-ban-91733940
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Christians for Personhood:

The SC State Constitution states in Article I, Section 3. “nor shall any person be deprived of life, … without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied the equal protection of the laws.”

Regardless of what the SC Supreme Court decides in the Heartbeat Law case, but ESPECIALLY if these justices opine that child-murder is somehow included in the State Constitution Privacy Right, if the SC State Legislature will recognize statutorily the PERSONHOOD of preborn human beings beginning at fertilization, without exception, then the right to life of the preborn will be protected constitutionally by Article I, Section 3. of the SC State Constitution.

Personhood and the Constitutionally-protected Right to Life trumps Privacy.
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ROE v. WADE Opinion, January 22, 1973: “If … personhood is established, the [pro-“abortion”] case, of course, collapses, …” ‘
January 5, 2022
http://christiansforpersonhood.com/index.php/2022/01/05/roe-v-wade-opinion-january-22-1973-if-personhood-is-established-the-pro-abortion-case-of-course-collapses
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God says,
“Thou shalt not kill (murder).”
Exodus 20:13, KJV

ChristiansforPersonhood.com
Columbia, SC